Spanglish - A "New" American Language

rich7   Saturday, March 05, 2005, 08:01 GMT
Well done, rise up latinos in the world.........
greg   Monday, March 07, 2005, 09:41 GMT
To Latinos and the rest of Romance-speaking folks, have a look at http://www.orbilat.com/General_Survey/Romance_Languages.html where you'll find a map of Romany at the bottom of the page.

Zdravko Batzarov makes the distinction between Old Romany (European Romance languages) and New Romany (Spanish, Portuguese and French spoken in Americas). No name was given to African Romany. Asian Romany is limited to Philippines (Spanish) whereas French is still spoken in countries that formerly constitute Indochina (Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam) and Portuguese is used in Macao.

California is included in New Romany. So are southwestern regions neighbouring the United States of Mexico : Arizona, New-Mexico and Texas.

Florida is considered a part of New Romany whereas Lousiana has been forgotten.

New-England and New-York, too, have been forgotten.
Ai Carumba   Tuesday, March 08, 2005, 10:00 GMT
Spanglish may well evolve into a separate language, independent of English and Spanish. It doesn't need to take over, overtake or influence English or Spanish to establish itself. People can have a good mastery of both English and Spanish and still choose to revert to Spanglish in their day-to-day speaking language. There's nothing stupid about it.
greg   Tuesday, March 08, 2005, 11:44 GMT
Ai Carumba,

You’re right : Anglo-Spanish (if it were to acquire or maintain valid autonomy from Spanish and English) isn’t bound to replace Spanish or English. The three idioms are currently competing in battlefields like California or Texas. Can the current competition be regarded as the climax of an already completed trend ? Or, rather, the early start of a linguistic clash the outcome of which will be fully appreciated only by our grandchildren ? Spanish Californians living in the 17th century might have rejected the pipe dream of English-speaking California as complete nonsense. Later events, such as Anglo immigration then conquest, proved them wrong.

The kind of ‘Berlin Wall’ erected by the USA on its southwestern border to control Hispanophone immigration to Gringolandia is just as illusive as was the putative rejection by 17th-century Spanish Californians.