How can it be, like, "Valley Girl"? I don't hear any, like, "likes",or, like "awesomes" in there? How can you say that it sounds like Valley Girl?
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>> It's Vancouver or Valley Girl accent. Strong CVS but no Canadian raising. <<
Nope. I'm neither from Canada nor from San Fernando Valley ;) And what's CVS and Canadian raising, btw?
Nope. I'm neither from Canada nor from San Fernando Valley ;) And what's CVS and Canadian raising, btw?
-How can you say that it sounds like Valley Girl?-
Valley girl phonetics but without Valley Girl lexicon.
Valley girl phonetics but without Valley Girl lexicon.
my try: Harrisburg, Pennsylvania
People there are low back merged, [Q] (rounded merged vowel) is common
People there are low back merged, [Q] (rounded merged vowel) is common
I would be very surprised if he turned out to be from Pennsyllvania. The way he pronounces his "long O" sounds suggests a more northerly location.
Because Francis is pressing us so hard to pin it down to one city, I say Boise, Idaho.
Because Francis is pressing us so hard to pin it down to one city, I say Boise, Idaho.
>> The way he pronounces his "long O" sounds suggests a more northerly location. >>
What's the long "o"? The same as the short "o", or do you mean the "o" in words like "bone"?
What's the long "o"? The same as the short "o", or do you mean the "o" in words like "bone"?
Listening casually (but not too closely), I couldn't hear any Rocky Mountain Dialect in Francis's speech; this seems to preclude Boise, ID. On the other hand, I heard some vowel raising once or twice, but not at all consistently. I'd guess Seattle, WA.
>> I heard some vowel raising once or twice <<
Which words did you hear the vowel raising in?
Which words did you hear the vowel raising in?
>> You also sound like you're about 80 years old. <<
Really? Do I really sound that old?!?
Really? Do I really sound that old?!?
We must first assume that you're not a transplant, or are not cheating by code-switching; you're not, are you?
After listening to the sample--this time more closely--I couldn't detect any vowel-raising, or really, little aberration from the generally-accepted idea of General American English. Once or twice, I thought I heard monophthongization of the long "o", but I wasn't sure; if this perception is accurate, this would place the dialect as being that of a northern-tier state on the West Coast.
My original guess of Seattle, WA, still seems to fit the bill. Do tell, Francis: where are you from?
After listening to the sample--this time more closely--I couldn't detect any vowel-raising, or really, little aberration from the generally-accepted idea of General American English. Once or twice, I thought I heard monophthongization of the long "o", but I wasn't sure; if this perception is accurate, this would place the dialect as being that of a northern-tier state on the West Coast.
My original guess of Seattle, WA, still seems to fit the bill. Do tell, Francis: where are you from?
I though 'long o' was quite an unambiguous name for the vowel of words like 'bone'.
>> After listening to the sample--this time more closely--I couldn't detect any vowel-raising, or really, little aberration from the generally-accepted idea of General American English. <<
Hmm. It doesn't sound anything like General American to me at all. It's cot-caught merged. It's quite accented.
Hmm. It doesn't sound anything like General American to me at all. It's cot-caught merged. It's quite accented.
"It's cot-caught merged. It's quite accented."
While the conservative definition of General American English is indeed cot/caught unmerged, in practice this has become rather rare; modern-day definitions of GAE no longer preserve the cot/caught merger. In any case, Francis's cot/caught merger still seems to place him somewhere on the West Coast.
By the comment, "It's quite accented", could you please be more specific?
In my case, a caveat is in order: I'm trying to listen to Francis's sample on an aged eMac with not-so-good speakers, so I am working under a handicap.
While the conservative definition of General American English is indeed cot/caught unmerged, in practice this has become rather rare; modern-day definitions of GAE no longer preserve the cot/caught merger. In any case, Francis's cot/caught merger still seems to place him somewhere on the West Coast.
By the comment, "It's quite accented", could you please be more specific?
In my case, a caveat is in order: I'm trying to listen to Francis's sample on an aged eMac with not-so-good speakers, so I am working under a handicap.
I wonder why so many people replied Canadian earlier. Didn't they hear the word the word "sorry" was pronounced: [sar\i] ?
>> >> You also sound like you're about 80 years old. <<
Really? Do I really sound that old?!? <<
No, much younger. I would guess about 40 or 50.
>> >> You also sound like you're about 80 years old. <<
Really? Do I really sound that old?!? <<
No, much younger. I would guess about 40 or 50.
>> Listening casually (but not too closely), I couldn't hear any Rocky Mountain Dialect in Francis's speech; this seems to preclude Boise, ID. On the other hand, I heard some vowel raising once or twice, but not at all consistently. I'd guess Seattle, WA. <<
What's the difference in dialect between Boise and Seattle?
What's the difference in dialect between Boise and Seattle?