Usefulness of Languages

Janet   Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:57 am GMT
Sorry Guest, but i can not agree with you about: "the 0ig areas where English is not very spoken: Francophone and Russian speaking worlds." Most of The Francophone Countries in Africa can speak English.
La Toya   Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:04 pm GMT
Sorry too Guest, but I can not agree with you about: "the Big areas where English is not very spoken: Spanish(Panama, Costa Rica, Puerto Rico, Mexico, Honduras, and even Colombia nad Venezuela) Arabic, and Chinese worlds." Most of The Hispanic Countries in Africa can speak English. And rather most of The English Speaking Countries in Africa can speak French like Nigeria, Ghana, Sudan, Egypt.
Guest   Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:05 pm GMT
<< Europe: Spain, Andorra. In Portugal people understand Spanish easily. In Southern France you can find many people who speak it as a second tongue. >>


Yes. Spanish is more and more studied around the World. It confirms the World tendencies about French and Spanish. Take a look at this map:



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/85/Estudio_del_espa%C3%B1ol.PNG
Guest   Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:30 pm GMT
That map is crap and a hispanic hacker like you uploaded it. The hispanics are beginning to ruin Wikipedia.
Guest   Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:34 pm GMT
The data of the map are true.

Which data of the map are not true?

In USA there are more than 1 million that study Spanish, like in Brazil and France, for example.

At the same time, Spanish is studied by minorities in Canada, European Union, some African countries, Australia, Israel, Philippines and Japan.

Perhaps, you prefer than French were more important, but all the data of the map are completely true.
Guest   Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:42 pm GMT
<< <Latin America => A land area approximately 250% the size of mainland China.>
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Conceptually, Lat. America is not a nation, it includes about 20 countries approximately.

And the largest nation of Lat. America is Brazil and Brazilians speak Portuguese, not Spanish, but China, at least (let's leave Taiwan alone), Mainland China is an independent country which has over 9.6 million sq km territory, while the largest nation of Lat.America, "Brazil" (speak Portuguese, not Spanish), has 8.5 million sq km territory. >>

What was written is correct. That is the following is correct:
"Latin America => A land area approximately 250% the size of mainland China." This statement does not say Lat. America is a nation. Many other points can be made.
Hillary Clinton   Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:01 pm GMT
I will help the Hispanics to dominate the world.
Guest   Sat Aug 30, 2008 9:58 am GMT
<< The data of the map are true.

Which data of the map are not true?

In USA there are more than 1 million that study Spanish, like in Brazil and France, for example.

At the same time, Spanish is studied by minorities in Canada, European Union, some African countries, Australia, Israel, Philippines and Japan.

Perhaps, you prefer than French were more important, but all the data of the map are completely true. >>

That map is unreliable and crap. Who would believe a map made buy a hispanic that Spanish is the 3rd language of Canada.

According to http://www12.statcan.ca/english/census01/products/analytic/companion/lang/canada.cfm

Chinese reaffirmed as Canada's third most common mother tongue
The 2001 Census reaffirmed the position of Chinese as Canada's third most common mother tongue.

Almost 872,400 people reported Chinese as their mother tongue, up 136,400 or 18.5% from 1996. They accounted for 2.9% of the total population of Canada, up from 2.6% five years earlier. Italian remained in fourth place, and German fifth, although their numbers declined. Punjabi moved into sixth, and SPANISH SLIPPED to seventh.

Language groups from European countries still made up the majority of the allophone population. However, the population of these groups is much older, and therefore, their numbers continued to decline.

Allophone groups from Asian and Middle Eastern countries recorded the largest increases in numbers. In addition to Chinese, the language groups which reported the largest gains in numbers since the 1996 Census were Punjabi, whose numbers increased by 70,200, or 32.7%; Arabic, which increased by 54,400, or 32.7%; Urdu, which rose by 43,100, to almost double its 1996 level; and Tagalog, up 41,600 or 26.3%.

And to: http://www.ethnologue.com/show_country.asp?name=canada

Languages of Canada
See language map.
[See also SIL publications on the languages of Canada.]
Canada. 32,507,874. Indian 800,000 and Inuit 32,000 ethnic total (1993): 146,285 first-language speakers (1981 census). 4,120,770 non-English or French first language, or 15.3% (1991 census). National or official languages: English, French. Literacy rate: 96% to 99%. Also includes Afrikaans (2,353), Armenian (20,053), Assyrian Neo-Aramaic (5,000), Belarusan (2,280), Bulgarian (2,276), Central Khmer, Chaldean Neo-Aramaic, Corsican, Czech (27,038), Danish (29,807), Eastern Panjabi (214,530), Eastern Yiddish (49,890), Estonian (15,295), Finnish (39,069), Greek (143,892), Haitian Creole French (12,317), Hebrew, Hungarian (86,835), Icelandic, Irish Gaelic, ITALIAN (514,410), Iu Mien (100), Japanese (43,000), Judeo-Moroccan Arabic, Kashubian, Korean (73,000), Lao, Latvian (15,000), Lithuanian, Macedonian (12,464), Maltese, Najdi Spoken Arabic (20,000), Northern Kurdish (6,000), Nung, Plains Indian Sign Language, Polish (222,355), Pontic, Portuguese (222,870), Romanian (16,356), Russian (31,745), Scottish Gaelic (3,525), Serbian (7,966), Sinhala (3,004), Slovak, Slovenian (6,415), Southwestern Caribbean Creole English, SPANISH (228,580), Standard GERMAN (470,505), Swedish (21,591), Sylheti, Tagalog (158,210), Tongan, Turkish (5,179), Turoyo, Ukrainian (174,830), Vietnamese (60,000), Vlax Romani, Welsh (3,160), Western Farsi (15,000), Western Panjabi, Yue Chinese (250,000), India and Pakistan (280,000), speakers of many European languages. Information mainly from W. Chafe 1962, 1965; SIL 1951–2002. Blind population: 27,184. Deaf population: 1,704,551. Deaf institutions: Many. The number of languages listed for Canada is 89. Of those, 85 are living languages and 4 are extinct.
Bill Clinton   Sat Aug 30, 2008 9:59 am GMT
I will help the francophones dominate the world.
Guest   Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:03 am GMT
<< At the same time, Spanish is studied by minorities in Canada, European Union, some African countries, Australia, Israel, Philippines and Japan. >>

Canada = Chinese, Italian, German, Punjabi
Australia = French not Spanish
Israel = English, French, Russian aside form Hebrew and Arabic
Philippines = French, Japanese, Italian, and German have eclipsed Spanish as the most popular foreign language.
Japan = English, French, German, and Chinese
Guest   Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:25 pm GMT
Firstly, the map is completely correct and all the info is right.

Secondly, you know perfectly that in USA there are 45 million of Hispanics officially, but everybody say (including the Federal Government) that there are 10-12 million of illegal Hispanics. So, there are 55-57 million of Hispanics in USA.

The situation in Canada is similar, but whith smaller figures. In the Canadian Census, the Hispanic population is not so big, but the unofficial data say that there are over 1 million of Hispanics there. Take a look at these Canadian websites:

The launch of tlñ en español responds to the emerging needs of one of the country’s fastest growing third language communities. By 2005, Spanish speakers were the third largest group of non-English speaking immigrants to Canada, more than Punjabi speakers*, and by 2006, almost one million Spanish speakers lived in Canada. **

** Source: PMB Statistics as reported in Media in Canada, October 11, 2006.
http://www.tlntv.com/pressReleases/2007/TLN%20EN%20ESPANOL%20is%20born.pdf


Telelatino Network (TLN)
says tlñ en español, the first Canadian-made all Hispanic channel, is now operational. The new channel, says TLN, responds to the emerging needs of one of the country’s fastest growing third language communities. In 2006, almost one-million Spanish speakers lived in Canada...

http://www.broadcastdialogue.com/pdfs/newsletters/2007/nl20070308_14_38.pdf

Un reconteo de los hispanos que viven en Canadá, realizará Estadísticas Canadá ante lo mal contado que quedó nuestra comunidad en el último censo poblacional que se realizó y que arrojó un dato que no corresponde a la realidad.
Se afirma extraoficialmente que los hispanos son el tercer grupo étnico del Canadá con cerca de un MILLON de inmigrantes, solo por detrás de los asiáticos, sin embargo, las cifras arrojadas por el censo no las respaldaron la proyección de crecimiento de la comunidad en Canadá

Un aspecto que hay que aclarar, es que no todo es culpa de la forma que Estadística Canadá recoge la información, porque se descubrió también que muchos hispanos mienten a la hora de llenar los formularios, diciendo que son canadienses, o simplemente no los llenan, algunos por temor a dar información personal, en el caso de las personas sin un estatatus legal, que también deben ser contabilizados

http://www.comunidadhispanahoy.ca/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=343




SPANISH IN PHILIPPINES TODAY

Recently there seems to have been a resurgence in interest in the language among educated youth as seen in recent survey by the Academia Filipina de la Lengua Española (English: Philippine Academy of the Spanish Language), which showed that there were roughly 2,900,000 Spanish speakers in the Philippines (as a first, second, third, or fourth language) in 2006

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_language_in_the_Philippines


SPANISH IN ISRAEL TODAY

"El español es ahora la segunda lengua extranjera en Israel".

Los israelíes le fueron dando esa importancia a través de los últimos años y el Ministerio de Educación hizo eco de lo que pasa en la calle y a diario. Hoy el español está reconocido como segunda lengua extranjera, con el mismo status del inglés y el árabe y aprobada como materia de cultura general, válida para todas las escuelas de Israel. El nivel de estudio de la lengua entre los israelíes llegó a niveles muy altos y hay un gran desarrollo de la literatura de alto vuelo con extraordinarios valores de interés interpretativo.

http://www.tzavta.com.ar/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=107&Itemid=268


SPANISH IN AUSTRALIA TODAY

AUSTRALIA
Fuente: Australian Bureau of Statistics
(2001)
(http://www.census.gov.au/)
Población total: 20.400.000
Lengua oficial: inglés (de facto)
Número de hablantes nativos de español
(GDN): 106.517
Número de hablantes de español con competencia
limitada (GCL): 340.658
Número total de hablantes de español:
447.175

http://www.ucm.es/info/icei/pdf/DT%2003-06.pdf

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SPANISH IN JAPAN TODAY

El castellano es el idioma más estudiado por los japoneses después del inglés.

Aquí, en Japón, en el principio fue el verbo, el interés hacia el idioma español, que se ha situado en segundo lugar, inmediatamente después del inglés, y muy por delante del francés, del ruso, del chino, del coreano o del indí-

http://www.elpais.com/articulo/cultura/JAPoN/ESPAnA/JAPoN/castellano/idioma/estudiado/japoneses/despues/ingles/elpepicul/19840104elpepicul_5/Tes/


PD. I give always info with a link, a webpage that confirm my data. You should do the same. Thanks.
Another Guest   Sat Aug 30, 2008 9:37 pm GMT
I notice that all the names of languages end with the same character-- except English. What's with that?
K. T.   Sun Aug 31, 2008 4:23 am GMT
I'm curious, "Another guest",

What do you mean by "same character"? In Japanese, language names usually end with "go" (語)meaning language. Here's English (eigo)英語 and スペイン語 (Supeingo) or Spanish.


In Spanish, the word for "French" ends in "s" (francés).
Guest   Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:30 am GMT
<< Firstly, the map is completely correct and all the info is right.

Secondly, you know perfectly that in USA there are 45 million of Hispanics officially, but everybody say (including the Federal Government) that there are 10-12 million of illegal Hispanics. So, there are 55-57 million of Hispanics in USA.

The situation in Canada is similar, but whith smaller figures. In the Canadian Census, the Hispanic population is not so big, but the unofficial data say that there are over 1 million of Hispanics there. Take a look at these Canadian websites:

The launch of tlñ en español responds to the emerging needs of one of the country’s fastest growing third language communities. By 2005, Spanish speakers were the third largest group of non-English speaking immigrants to Canada, more than Punjabi speakers*, and by 2006, almost one million Spanish speakers lived in Canada. **

** Source: PMB Statistics as reported in Media in Canada, October 11, 2006.
http://www.tlntv.com/pressReleases/2007/TLN%20EN%20ESPANOL%20is%20born.pdf


Telelatino Network (TLN)
says tlñ en español, the first Canadian-made all Hispanic channel, is now operational. The new channel, says TLN, responds to the emerging needs of one of the country’s fastest growing third language communities. In 2006, almost one-million Spanish speakers lived in Canada...

http://www.broadcastdialogue.com/pdfs/newsletters/2007/nl20070308_14_38.pdf

Un reconteo de los hispanos que viven en Canadá, realizará Estadísticas Canadá ante lo mal contado que quedó nuestra comunidad en el último censo poblacional que se realizó y que arrojó un dato que no corresponde a la realidad.
Se afirma extraoficialmente que los hispanos son el tercer grupo étnico del Canadá con cerca de un MILLON de inmigrantes, solo por detrás de los asiáticos, sin embargo, las cifras arrojadas por el censo no las respaldaron la proyección de crecimiento de la comunidad en Canadá

Un aspecto que hay que aclarar, es que no todo es culpa de la forma que Estadística Canadá recoge la información, porque se descubrió también que muchos hispanos mienten a la hora de llenar los formularios, diciendo que son canadienses, o simplemente no los llenan, algunos por temor a dar información personal, en el caso de las personas sin un estatatus legal, que también deben ser contabilizados

http://www.comunidadhispanahoy.ca/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=343




SPANISH IN PHILIPPINES TODAY

Recently there seems to have been a resurgence in interest in the language among educated youth as seen in recent survey by the Academia Filipina de la Lengua Española (English: Philippine Academy of the Spanish Language), which showed that there were roughly 2,900,000 Spanish speakers in the Philippines (as a first, second, third, or fourth language) in 2006

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_language_in_the_Philippines


SPANISH IN ISRAEL TODAY

"El español es ahora la segunda lengua extranjera en Israel".

Los israelíes le fueron dando esa importancia a través de los últimos años y el Ministerio de Educación hizo eco de lo que pasa en la calle y a diario. Hoy el español está reconocido como segunda lengua extranjera, con el mismo status del inglés y el árabe y aprobada como materia de cultura general, válida para todas las escuelas de Israel. El nivel de estudio de la lengua entre los israelíes llegó a niveles muy altos y hay un gran desarrollo de la literatura de alto vuelo con extraordinarios valores de interés interpretativo.

http://www.tzavta.com.ar/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=107&Itemid=268


SPANISH IN AUSTRALIA TODAY

AUSTRALIA
Fuente: Australian Bureau of Statistics
(2001)
(http://www.census.gov.au/)
Población total: 20.400.000
Lengua oficial: inglés (de facto)
Número de hablantes nativos de español
(GDN): 106.517
Número de hablantes de español con competencia
limitada (GCL): 340.658
Número total de hablantes de español:
447.175

http://www.ucm.es/info/icei/pdf/DT%2003-06.pdf

(PAGE 32)

SPANISH IN JAPAN TODAY

El castellano es el idioma más estudiado por los japoneses después del inglés.

Aquí, en Japón, en el principio fue el verbo, el interés hacia el idioma español, que se ha situado en segundo lugar, inmediatamente después del inglés, y muy por delante del francés, del ruso, del chino, del coreano o del indí-

http://www.elpais.com/articulo/cultura/JAPoN/ESPAnA/JAPoN/castellano/idioma/estudiado/japoneses/despues/ingles/elpepicul/19840104elpepicul_5/Tes/


PD. I give always info with a link, a webpage that confirm my data. You should do the same. Thanks. >>

I will not believe the data that you gave me because the links were made by Instituto Cervantes or by hispanics. Everybody knows here that hispanics are lying and post wrong information about Spanish language. SORRY BUT YOUR INFORMATION AND LINKS ARE ALL CRAPS!!!!!
Guest   Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:31 am GMT
<< The situation in Canada is similar, but whith smaller figures. In the Canadian Census, the Hispanic population is not so big, but the unofficial data say that there are over 1 million of Hispanics there. Take a look at these Canadian websites:

The launch of tlñ en español responds to the emerging needs of one of the country’s fastest growing third language communities. By 2005, Spanish speakers were the third largest group of non-English speaking immigrants to Canada, more than Punjabi speakers*, and by 2006, almost one million Spanish speakers lived in Canada. ** >>

According to http://www12.statcan.ca/english/census01/products/analytic/companion/lang/canada.cfm

Chinese reaffirmed as Canada's third most common mother tongue
The 2001 Census reaffirmed the position of Chinese as Canada's third most common mother tongue.

Almost 872,400 people reported Chinese as their mother tongue, up 136,400 or 18.5% from 1996. They accounted for 2.9% of the total population of Canada, up from 2.6% five years earlier. Italian remained in fourth place, and German fifth, although their numbers declined. Punjabi moved into sixth, and SPANISH SLIPPED to seventh.

Language groups from European countries still made up the majority of the allophone population. However, the population of these groups is much older, and therefore, their numbers continued to decline.

Allophone groups from Asian and Middle Eastern countries recorded the largest increases in numbers. In addition to Chinese, the language groups which reported the largest gains in numbers since the 1996 Census were Punjabi, whose numbers increased by 70,200, or 32.7%; Arabic, which increased by 54,400, or 32.7%; Urdu, which rose by 43,100, to almost double its 1996 level; and Tagalog, up 41,600 or 26.3%.

And to: http://www.ethnologue.com/show_country.asp?name=canada

Languages of Canada
See language map.
[See also SIL publications on the languages of Canada.]
Canada. 32,507,874. Indian 800,000 and Inuit 32,000 ethnic total (1993): 146,285 first-language speakers (1981 census). 4,120,770 non-English or French first language, or 15.3% (1991 census). National or official languages: English, French. Literacy rate: 96% to 99%. Also includes Afrikaans (2,353), Armenian (20,053), Assyrian Neo-Aramaic (5,000), Belarusan (2,280), Bulgarian (2,276), Central Khmer, Chaldean Neo-Aramaic, Corsican, Czech (27,038), Danish (29,807), Eastern Panjabi (214,530), Eastern Yiddish (49,890), Estonian (15,295), Finnish (39,069), Greek (143,892), Haitian Creole French (12,317), Hebrew, Hungarian (86,835), Icelandic, Irish Gaelic, ITALIAN (514,410), Iu Mien (100), Japanese (43,000), Judeo-Moroccan Arabic, Kashubian, Korean (73,000), Lao, Latvian (15,000), Lithuanian, Macedonian (12,464), Maltese, Najdi Spoken Arabic (20,000), Northern Kurdish (6,000), Nung, Plains Indian Sign Language, Polish (222,355), Pontic, Portuguese (222,870), Romanian (16,356), Russian (31,745), Scottish Gaelic (3,525), Serbian (7,966), Sinhala (3,004), Slovak, Slovenian (6,415), Southwestern Caribbean Creole English, SPANISH (228,580), Standard GERMAN (470,505), Swedish (21,591), Sylheti, Tagalog (158,210), Tongan, Turkish (5,179), Turoyo, Ukrainian (174,830), Vietnamese (60,000), Vlax Romani, Welsh (3,160), Western Farsi (15,000), Western Panjabi, Yue Chinese (250,000), India and Pakistan (280,000), speakers of many European languages. Information mainly from W. Chafe 1962, 1965; SIL 1951–2002. Blind population: 27,184. Deaf population: 1,704,551. Deaf institutions: Many. The number of languages listed for Canada is 89. Of those, 85 are living languages and 4 are extinct.