Italian Pronunciation

Livio   Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:52 pm GMT
I'm just wondering how to pronounce certain words.

For instance: balliamo: bal-lee-ah-mo or bal-ya-mo?

Or ciabatta: chee-ah-batta or cha-batta?
moi   Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:00 pm GMT
the first is bal lyamo
the second is chabat-ta
Livio   Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:20 pm GMT
But I'm just wondering when to pronounce the vowels individually or not. Like Italia: I sometimes say ee-tal-ya and then ee-tal-ee-ah.
moi   Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:23 pm GMT
it's eetalya all together
PARISIEN   Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:53 pm GMT
Mais quelle différence entre 'balliamo' et 'bagliamo'?
But what diference between 'balliamo' et 'bagliamo'?
Che differenza c'è fra 'balliamo' et 'bagliamo'?
blanche   Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:00 pm GMT
Che differenza c'è fra 'balliamo' et 'bagliamo'?

llya glia are two completely different sounds!
c'est moi   Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:02 pm GMT
no big difference for French people....
not even for others who have the GL sound in their respective languages.

Italia- Italya or Italia (with "i" as a semivowel).
While pronouncing it, it sounds almost the same, and the only difference is that the GL sound sounds more like doppia, and LY like a single consonant.
blanche   Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:05 pm GMT
French doesn't have the sound gl and Spanish is losing it
Sasha   Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:10 pm GMT
As a matter of fact, most foreigners can't pronounce gl (it's always a double consonants in Italian) properly
c'est moi   Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:16 pm GMT
that's why i said it was impossible to them to recognize those two sounds.

spanish LL is not similar.

Slavonic L' or LJ is a proper one, but it's not a geminate. (except Russian and Slovenian, they don't have the GL sound)
chato   Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:08 pm GMT
"French doesn't have the sound gl and Spanish is losing it"

I'm a Spanish speaker, but I don't know what you mean by the GL sound, it is like in "Globo"?
sammito   Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:10 pm GMT
Globo"? Not at all
it's a sound similar to Spanish LL
Chato   Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:54 pm GMT
The Spanish LL and Y sound the same for 98% of Spanish speakers.

Anyway, so you guys don't have the English sound "GL" like in "globe" in Italian?
Guest   Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:01 pm GMT
98% of Spanish speakers are ignorants. Classy people pronounce LL and Y differently.
fools   Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:49 pm GMT
it's not true. LL and Y are well distinguished in the northern Spain, in fact, from Madrid up to the north.
I'm from Salamanca, and my whole family and friends do distinguish those two sounds.
It's not the GL sound as in Italian, it's different and in my opinion,it's more difficult to achieve the LL than GL.