A Question to all: [...]

Just a visitor   Thu May 04, 2006 2:34 pm GMT
I have a question for the forum regulars, I just stumbled upon this site/forum and after viewing the 'English side' of the site, I was curious to see what the 'languages side' looked/was like.

And I'm just wondering, why are there so many topics about 'romance/neo-latin' languages and so few about the rest?
Thijs Kuiken   Thu May 04, 2006 2:37 pm GMT
'Cause most of the bods who frequent this forum speak Romance/Neo-Latin lingos, I guess!
Jav   Thu May 04, 2006 3:26 pm GMT
Yeah, but why would they be the most frequent? It's not like the forum discriminates non romance speakers right?
Jav   Thu May 04, 2006 7:41 pm GMT
That sound somewhat odd ... From what I can see by browising through the older topics, it's these people who call themselves Latins who have scarred away most other the non romance posters.How very strange.

Does any of you know a specific reason for this behaviour?
Jav   Thu May 04, 2006 7:43 pm GMT
*browsing
*scared
Travis   Fri May 05, 2006 12:07 am GMT
>>That sound somewhat odd ... From what I can see by browising through the older topics, it's these people who call themselves Latins who have scarred away most other the non romance posters.How very strange.<<

Yep, they've totally overrun the place, scaring off most of the other users in the process, and Brennus et al have done one bit to stop them.

>>Does any of you know a specific reason for this behaviour?<<

A combination of typical Internet trolling behavior and general chauvinism, often along practically ethnic/racial-type lines.

If it weren't for the lack of mandatory user accounts on here, I would say ban every last one of these sorts (no, I don't mean you greg). And even still, I don't see why Brennus et al don't ban (all) the IPs used by these sorts.
Jav   Fri May 05, 2006 9:46 am GMT
Brennus,

You wrote:
>>Also, things change and just because there are a lot of Romance language buffs and specialists posting on here now doesn't mean that it will always be so.<<

And I would agree, nothing lasts forever, but from what I can see these 'Latins' aren't specialists or buffs.To be honest with you, and after reading through the average "Latins is better than Englis/Germanic"* post, they look more like troubled teens or adolecents to me.

*They seem(ed) to hate these languages more than the rest.

Travis,

I'm wondering as well why moderators, (I don't know who or how many there are) did not bann these people if (and I believe you) "they" completely ran over the place.
Aldo_b   Fri May 05, 2006 5:02 pm GMT
<<And I would agree, nothing lasts forever, but from what I can see these 'Latins' aren't specialists or buffs.>>

<<I'm wondering as well why moderators, (I don't know who or how many there are) did not bann these people if (and I believe you) "they" completely ran over the place.>>

It seems you became what you don't like.

<<From what I can see by browising through the older topics, it's these people who call themselves Latins who have scarred away most other the non romance posters.>>

You didn't know Sander. This guy really hates romance languages.

<<And I'm just wondering, why are there so many topics about 'romance/neo-latin' languages and so few about the rest? >>

I think the reason is that there are more romance language speakers (after English) than any other so it's natural to see more postings about it.
Jav   Fri May 05, 2006 7:48 pm GMT
Aldo_b,

You wrote:
>>It seems you became what you don't like.<<
Which I don't understand.What are you trying to say here?

>>You didn't know Sander. This guy really hates romance languages<<

Although his name occurs in many of the 'fights' I saw in the archives, I wouldn't say he hated (past tense, I think he left the forum) romance languages, I can't seem to find a post where he says that, I think he just wanted to get ridd of these latin trolls.
Thijs Kuiken   Sat May 06, 2006 4:28 am GMT
Ah but he who hates romance is a cynic and will die a bachelor, neh? ;)
Guest   Sat May 06, 2006 10:57 am GMT
Thijs kuiken, were you trying to be funny?
Candy   Sat May 06, 2006 11:54 am GMT
<<Thijs kuiken, were you trying to be funny?>>

Well, duh. Of course he was. A good thing too - we need some humour on this forum.
Aldo_b   Sat May 06, 2006 3:12 pm GMT
>>It seems you became what you don't like.<<
<<Which I don't understand.What are you trying to say here? >>

Tell me if I'm wrong but I find your comments (and from other) as discriminating and repressive as the ones you criticise. It seems some would like to start a witch hunt against latin language speakers because there are "too much" around here.

<<Although his name occurs in many of the 'fights' I saw in the archives, I wouldn't say he hated (past tense, I think he left the forum) romance languages, I can't seem to find a post where he says that, I think he just wanted to get ridd of these latin trolls.>>

He never said it but it was way clear for everybody. I don't like to sound resentful but things calmed down once he left the forum.
Jav   Sat May 06, 2006 4:55 pm GMT
Hehehe, it seems I'm really getting interested finding out what happened here!

Aldo_b,

>>Tell me if I'm wrong but I find your comments (and from other) as discriminating and repressive as the ones you criticise. It seems some would like to start a witch hunt against latin language speakers because there are "too much" around here. <<

As far as I can see, the people I 'criticise' haven't got many respect here, just look at Travis' post.Do you indentify with these people who have, and I quote, "completely runn over the place scaring off most of the other users in the process" ?

I do not wish to generalise, but I think typical attitudes of these internet Latin trolls are the following.They seem to:
- hate or have a strong disliking of English or Anglophone nations.
- strong disliking of other, especially Germanic, languages other than the Romance group.
- Extreme 'love'/obsession with Romance languages*

* ie. if he or she would post a message in one of this forums many "which languages do you like best" topics, it would be a list of all romance languages.And he or she would attack anyone who did not post a romance language first.

I did a google search of the site and I came along with a post made by 'Aldo' .As you wrote, "I don't like to sound resentful but things calmed down once he left the forum", it would seem you and him are the same person.

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Aldo Fri Dec 09, 2005 11:39 pm GMT
All languages are important but the best part of English is its simplicity. Tenses are simple, articles and adjetives have no gender, lots of words of romance and Greek origin, verbs are very regular and conjugations are quite easy maybe too much and make a mistake is easy too

I think that's the reason why English is very extended worldwide and used like a bridge to interchange information between people who speak other languages. That's what I love of it.

And that has nothing to do with the "POWER" of any country !!!!
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You seem like an intelligent person, so why would you denigrate English grammar and deny that English' main source of 'power' is the fact that the 2 main superpowers of the 20th century were English speaking?

You also wrote:
>>He never said it but it was way clear for everybody.<<

I can't find much of you (Aldo) in the archives, are you an actual forum regular?

Well, we could actually test that 'everybody' statement of yours :-)

Brennus, Candy and Travis, do you think this Sander hated Romance languages? Or better yet, how would you describe him?

(I know this must sound very odd for all of you, having a complete stranger ask you all this.But I'm just really fascinated by this site.It feels like I'm some kind of 'Online Archaeologist':-)
Candy   Sat May 06, 2006 5:14 pm GMT
<<Brennus, Candy and Travis, do you think this Sander hated Romance languages?>>

Not at all. He just got very irritated with people who posted the kind of things you mentioned in your post above. Unfortunately, he could be a liitle 'combative', to put it mildly. He and the trolls seemed to wind each other up a lot. But Sander's a lot saner than he often appeared on Antimoon :)