FRENCH or SPANISH?

Guest   Thu May 31, 2007 8:21 am GMT
In short, Spanish 8- French 2
Guest   Thu May 31, 2007 8:24 am GMT
In short, Spanish 8- French 2
Guest   Thu May 31, 2007 8:25 am GMT
In short, French 12-Spanish 0
Guest   Thu May 31, 2007 8:57 am GMT
In short, it is better that everybody study several languages. Both, Spanish and French are useful.
Brad   Thu May 31, 2007 9:05 am GMT
These questions are idiotic--one should answer them for oneself, based on one's own preferences, experiences, needs, and desires.

Regardless, there is a wealth of information on the net and in libraries that will help you decide. For instance, idiots, if you are interested in cultural production you can look up books, plays, and movies in foreign languages, evaluating them based on popularity.

If you are interested in the practica aspects of learning a foreign language, there are plenty of statistics, data tables, and information that can abstract the decision-making process for you.
Franco   Thu May 31, 2007 10:06 am GMT
Lol, Brad, you forgot most people are donkey-fodder.
Visiteur   Thu May 31, 2007 12:12 pm GMT
Will you stop calling the Francophones as frogs you HISPANIQUE FLY. You want me to swat you?

OK! Spanish is not the most important economicaly. How can that be when most Spanish speaking countries are as poor as beggars? While take a look at the standard of living and the economic performance of France, Canada, Belgium, Switzerland, and DOM-TOM and compare them to Spanish speaking countries.
K. T.   Thu May 31, 2007 2:14 pm GMT
From greg:

"Selçuk : tu devrais apprendre les deux langues et non une seulement"

K. T.: I agree. You should learn both languages and not just one. I learned French and Spanish at the same time. It's not hard to do.
Guest   Thu May 31, 2007 3:20 pm GMT
Hey Hispanic Flies, i hope thath this link will enlighten your mind why French is more important than Spanish. You were already told that the number of speakers alone is not enough.

Just take a look at these links: http://www2.ignatius.edu/faculty/turner/languages.htm and http://www2.ignatius.edu/faculty/turner/worldlang.htm.

Imagine Portuguese beat Spanish in the number of secondary speakers as mush as French beat English in this category according to Weber and Comrie.

Spanish is spoken only by 20,000,000 people Hahahahahahahaha and what a pity! This means that Spanish is not as intenational language as English, French, Russian, Arabic, or even Portuguese.

Once again the table proves that English and French are the most international languages. Spanish is ZERO in the outer core which means that its usage is just restricted to Spain and Hispanic America.

So what do these Hispanic Flies are bragging about their language prime position in the world? NADA.

And there's no truth about what these Hispanic Flies tell that French is not on the top ten. I don't see Korean, Tamil or Vietnames in this chart. You're all just lying.

There you have it Sam, you got what you were asking for. The number of secondary speakers of Chinese and Spanish are equal.
Guest   Thu May 31, 2007 5:03 pm GMT
where is Sasquatch????????????????
Guest   Thu May 31, 2007 5:18 pm GMT
That´s not right, disgusting Frog:

Spanish is spoken as mother tongue by 400 million people and 100 million more as second language. 500 million people speak this universal language.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_language#_note-instituto_cervantes


There are more people that speak Spanish than German, Italian and Frog-French together!!!!


It is the second most studied language in the world. So, la Francophonie, the French club lie, like all the Frogs!!!


http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:0i7Y43lUanEJ:www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2007/04/26/cultura/1177610767.html+%22Instituto+Cervantes%22%22los+actuales+500+millones+de+hispanohablantes+en+Latinoam%C3%A9rica+y+Espa%C3%B1a%22&hl=es&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=es

Economically, Spanish is and will be more important than Frog language

http://unicode.org/notes/tn13/

If you want to give your opinion, you need to support this with a report or a web, disgusting Frogs.
Guest   Thu May 31, 2007 5:40 pm GMT
Mi Opinion???
Here!

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There are more people that speak Spanish than German, Italian and Frog-French together!!!! >>


It is the second most studied language in the world. So, la Francophonie, the French club lie, like all the Frogs!!!

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French is one of the 2 UNO's work language, even if Turkey join EU, one of the 3 EU's work language. The 3 capitals of EU are francophones (Strasbourg in France, Brussels 85% of the population, Luxembourg (all the population speak french), also French is the only language of the European Justice.
You know English? 60% of the English vocabulary is originated from the franco-latin (without counting the Greek vocabulary which is similar), so French should be quite easy, if you know French you know Italian (89% similar vocabulary more than Spanish{80%}), yes the pronounciation is different but "si tu comprends le Français, comprendi l'italiano."

"Spanish is easier than French? no!" a link, some chichés are made: French is more difficult than Spanish see that also to undestand why it isn't true:

http://french.about.com/cs/teachingresources/a/spanishiseasier.htm


Why learn French so?

1. An obvious reason to learn a new language is to be able to communicate with the people who speak it.

2. French distinguishes between tu (familiar) and vous (formal/plural), while Spanish has five words that indicate one of four categories: familiar/singular (tú or vos, depending on the country), familiar/plural (vosotros), formal/singular (Ud.), and formal/plural (Uds.). the fact that many languages have more than one translation of "you" indicates that these languages (and the cultures that speak them) place a greater emphasis on distinguishing between audiences than does English.

3. If you are an English speaker, one of the best reasons to learn French is to help you understand your own language. Although English is a Germanic language, French has had an enormous impact on it . In fact, French is the largest donor of foreign words in English. Unless your English vocabulary is much higher than average, learning French will greatly increase the number of English words you know.

4. French is spoken as a native language in more than two dozen countries on five continents. Depending on your sources, French is either the 11th or the 13th most common native language in the world, with 72-79 million native speakers and another 210 million secondary speakers .

5. French is the second most commonly taught second language in the world (after English), making it a real possibility that speaking French will come in handy practically anywhere you travel.

6. In 2003, the United States was France's leading investor, accounting for 25% of the new jobs created in France from foreign investment. There are 2,400 US companies in France generating 240,000 jobs. American companies with offices in France include IBM, Microsoft, Mattel, Dow Chemical, SaraLee, Ford, Coca-Cola, AT&T, Motorola, Johnson & Johnson, Ford, and Hewlett Packard.

7. French is the 3rd most frequently spoken non-English language in US homes and the second most commonly taught foreign language in the United States (after Spanish).

8. French is an official working language in dozens of international organizations, including the United Nations, International Olympic Committee, and International Red Cross.

9. French is the lingua franca of culture, including art, cuisine, dance, and fashion. France has won more Nobel Prizes for literature than any other country in the world and is one of the top producers of international films.

10. French is the second most frequently used language on the internet.

11. French is ranked the 2nd most influential language in the world.

Some links:
http://www.nadeaubarlow.com/books/view/2/2
http://www2.ignatius.edu/faculty/turner/languages.htm

<<<<Economically, Spanish is and will be more important than Frog language

http://unicode.org/notes/tn13/ >>>>

While any language will be useful for some jobs or for some regions, French is the only foreign language that can be useful throughout the world as well as in the United States. French as a foreign language is the second most frequently taught language in the world after English. The International Organization of Francophonie has 51 member states and governments. Of these, 28 countries have French as an official language. French is the only language other than English spoken on five continents. French and English are the only two global languages.
When deciding on a foreign language for work or school, consider that French is the language that will give you the most choices later on in your studies or your career.

French, along with English, is the official working language of

the United Nations

UNESCO

NATO

Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD)

the International Labor Bureau

the International Olympic Committee

the 31-member Council of Europe

the European Community

the Universal Postal Union

the International Red Cross

Union of International Associations (UIA)

French is the dominant working language at

the European Court of Justice

the European Tribunal of First Instance

the European Court of Auditors in Luxembourg.

the Press Room at the European Commission in Brussels, Belgium

One example of the importance of French can be seen in a recent listing of international jobs (8/29/06) distributed by the US State Department: 135 required or preferred French, 49 Spanish, 25 a UN language (Arabic, Chinese, English, French, Russian, and Spanish), 6 Arabic, 6 Russian, 2 German, 2 Italian , and Chinese 2.

Of the various types of professional positions for which international organizations recruit, five required French, two Spanish, one Portuguese, and one Arabic, according to the fact sheet released by the UN Employment Information and Assistance Unit Bureau of International Organization Affairs U.S. Department of State, December 1, 2000.

The Economics of French and France


French is the foreign language spoken by our largest trading partner (Canada).

The province of Quebec alone is the fifth largest trading partner of the United States with over $104 billion in trade in 2000.

In 2000, the United States exported more to countries having French as a national language than to countries having any other foreign language. Exports to Canada alone in that year were greater than the combined exports to all countries south of the United States.
Between 1995 and 2002 exports from the US to France increased by 33%; imports from France went up 64%.

The U.S. and France share many trade similarities, particularly their global standing as the world's top 2 exporters in 3 very important sectors: defense products, agricultural goods, and services. Franco-American trade is also remarkable for its symmetry, as 6 of the top 10 exports are the same each way.

France has the sixth largest economy in the world after the U.S., Japan, Germany, China and England. In 2005, the economies of China, England and France were similar in size.

France is the second largest exporter of agricultural products in the world after the U.S.

In recent years, the U.S. has been the largest direct investor in France. In 2002, France was the second largest foreign investor in the U.S.

The world invests in France: in 2003, France was the second largest destination of foreign investment in the world.

French companies employ approximately 650,000 Americans. Among foreign countries doing business in the US, France employs the third largest number of Americans.

French is one of the languages spoken in the US: 1.9 million Americans speak French in the home. (2000 US Census)

Overall, the French export more per capita than the Japanese and more than twice as much as the Americans. France is overall, the fourth largest exporting nation of the world.

France is the world's leader in the production of luxury goods.

More tourists visit France than any other country in the world.

France gives more foreign aid per capita to developing nations than does the US.

Science and Technology

France will be the site of the world's first nuclear fusion reactor, the International Thermonuclear Experimental Reactor

Seven of France's top ten exports to the U.S. are industrial or high technology products.

France is the fourth largest producer of automobiles in the world (Renault, Peugeot, Citroën) and the third largest exporter.

France is fourth in research among countries of the Organization for Economic Development and Cooperation (after Japan, Germany, and the US).

France is a major world research center in the field of high energy physics.

The French are a world leader in medical research: the AIDS virus was first isolated by French doctors.

The French are a leader in medical genetics (the Human Genome Project is located in Paris).

The French are the world's third manufacturers of electronics equipment.

European leader in aerospace (Aérospatiale, Arianespace, Airbus...).

Most commercial satellites are put into space on French Ariane rockets.

The fastest train (TGV) is French.

The smart card was invented in France.

The ocean liner Queen Mary II was built in France.

France is the world's third military power (after the US and Russia), and has the world's second largest defense industry (i.e. exocet missiles, radar technology.)

The French have nearly 15,000 troups on peace-keeping duties in 15 countries including Afghanistan, the Balkans, and the Ivory Coast.

France is the world's second largest builder and exporter of civilian and military aircraft and helicopters (Airbus is the world's second largest fleet of commercial airliners, and many of the US Coast Guard helicopters are made by Aérospatiale in Toulouse.)

France has one of the most advanced systems of telecommunications in the world. Fiber optics were invented in France.

Importance of French in school and work

Historically France and the French language have had an enormous influence over American society. France was the United States' first ally. French thought played a dominant role among the founders of the United States in the 18th century, and it continues to shape America today through the influence of such intellectual currents as post-structuralism and post-modernism. In the humanities and the social sciences, many of the most important writings have come from France. Students and researchers who know French have access to these works for several years before they are translated into English. Many significant works are never translated and remain accessible only to those who know the language. In addition, most graduate schools require knowledge of at least one foreign language, and French remains the most commonly used language after English.

When employers and universities look at applicants, they do not start looking at the bottom of the list to see who has done only the minimal amount of requirements necessary or taken the easiest route available, they start at the top of the list and look for those students who have risen above the rest. High school students should consider studying at least four years of a foreign language. College students should seek to earn a minor in French or have French as a primary or secondary major. With French they have access to the most widely spoken foreign language in the world after English and they become familiar with a culture that significantly influences our own. The French economy is one of the strongest in the world and is increasingly a leader in technological innovation. In sum, French is the language of the future.

The French government has done an excellent job explaining all that France has to offer economically and debunking some of the myths about France. In 2002, France attracted more foreign investment than the US and was on a par with China. Whatever some in the United States think of France, the world invests its money in France.


This is telling. Countries of the U.N. were asked which language they would like to receive correspondence in. Only 19 chose Spanish, while 36 chose French!

http://www.geneva.ch/Lang.htm

One example of the importance of French can be seen in a recent listing of international jobs (8/29/06) distributed by the US State Department: 135 required or preferred French, 49 Spanish, 25 a UN language (Arabic, Chinese, English, French, Russian, and Spanish), 6 Arabic, 6 Russian, 2 German, 2 Italian , and Chinese 2.


<<Its funny how the person who said that Spanish was more important than French was not even Hispanic, and the only one defending French is in fact French... >>

Its funny how the person who loves and support the French language, was not even French (as the majority), and the only ones who defending Spanish are Americans and Hispanics (+ Spaniards)
Alba   Thu May 31, 2007 5:49 pm GMT
Im not Spanish but I think Spanish is more important/necessary than French. French just sounds really gay and nasal while Spanish is vibrant and colorful!!!
Zouké   Thu May 31, 2007 6:25 pm GMT
<<Im not Spanish but I think Spanish is more important/necessary than French. French just sounds really gay and nasal while Spanish is vibrant and colorful!!! >>

Le Français t'emmerde!
"Je t'emmerde!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X10qAZodocs


The problem Alba? You only criticize, the French doesn't ring gayer than the Spanish, on the contrary, the Spanish "r" makes more whore than the French "r". A proof? The French rap is the second music of street of the world! A gay language also?

<<Spanish is vibrant and colorful!!! >>

French also, but French by its variety has various forms, not as Spanish. If French is not vibrating and colorful, why the Zouk (tropical musical genre) was invented by Martinqueses and Guadeloupeans of French Caribbea?

Zouk Songs:

1 .http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeCTd9SDppE&mode=related&search=
2 . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF8WTsNn9Lk&mode=related&search=
3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGh_k0Y99Oo
4. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz09mCd-QU4&mode=related&search=
Zouké   Thu May 31, 2007 6:27 pm GMT