you are gay if you say to another boy he is handsome

Skippy   Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:03 pm GMT
The question should be: why do you get so offended when called gay? Hmmm...????
Guest   Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:41 pm GMT
Perhaps because labeling people only because of their sexual preferences is not good and is the first steap towards discrimination?
guest   Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:06 pm GMT
<<Perhaps because labeling people only because of their sexual preferences is not good and is the first steap towards discrimination? >>

The answer to that is not to do away with labeling however. Labeling is a necessary aspect of living. Everything you know of has some kind of label attached to it (love, family, television, book, tree, food, friends, etc).

The area of focus here is the desire to discriminate. You cannot eradicate people's innate desire to discriminate (if they have one) by taking away labels. That's not the answer.
guest   Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:10 pm GMT
<<<<Perhaps because labeling people only because of their sexual preferences is not good and is the first steap towards discrimination? >> >>

Nor can you automatically assume that by labeling, people will therefore discriminate.

What you in effect are doing yourself is a form of discrimination.
(This is a typical human tendency: unwittingly condemning self by [and at the same time as] condemning others)
Guest   Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:13 pm GMT
It's not innate. It's imposed by culture. Probably if people wasn't taught that men who like men are called gays they wouldn't need a name to label them.
guest   Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:27 pm GMT
<<It's not innate. It's imposed by culture. Probably if people wasn't taught that men who like men are called gays they wouldn't need a name to label them. >>

It is innate.
It's culture that sometimes weakens and desensitizes people's innate and lower natures. This is a good thing though.

<Probably if people wasn't taught that men who like men are called gays they wouldn't need a name to label them.>

Um, excuse me, but I thought that the definition of being a gay man was that they like other men. ???. So what do *you* call them?
Guest   Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:15 pm GMT
but, there are even more bisexual men than gay men, so it could be acceptable.
Guest   Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:26 pm GMT
All men are bisexual really.
Damian in Edinburgh   Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:36 pm GMT
What a ridiculous thread this is to be sure. Have you not got better things to do with your time than to devote so much of it discussing an issue like this? If you're gay, fine. If you're not gay, fine. It's nobody's business except the people concerned. Deal with it, shut up and run back home to mummy....it's way past your bedtimes.
Aidan McLaren   Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:19 am GMT
It's obvious that *you*, guest with lower case G, needs to read the rule-book of life.

There are no rules, only subjectivity.
Guest   Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:21 am GMT
Are you nihilist?
Aidan McLaren   Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:03 am GMT
I am a realist.
Guest   Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:19 am GMT
Nobody is realist. Our dreams, fears, passions, ambitions, etc, influx on our perception of reality. hence nobody is realist. We get a distorted version of the reality always.
Aidan McLaren   Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:37 am GMT
So you believe in solipsism? We all see reality equally; we just don't want to.
Guest   Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:03 am GMT
"We all see reality equally";

It's just the contrary.