Does Language Make Who We Are?

chantal   Tuesday, June 24, 2003, 05:50 GMT
where are you from ?
chantal   Tuesday, June 24, 2003, 05:56 GMT
I think your cousins from Virginia are not the best of Americans. They might be overestimating themselves only because they were born in US.There are loads of Americans like your cousins. there are more well behaved and educated. It's like any other country.
DARKMAN   Tuesday, June 24, 2003, 06:48 GMT
I think languages not make who we are all over.
Our philosofy and ideology made by surroundings and education.
Languages is just the means and instruments of mind-production.
Clark   Tuesday, June 24, 2003, 06:58 GMT
Has anyone ever read 1984? Great book; one of my favorites!

Politics is a dangerous thing. All the time people forget that the average French person and the average American person do not hate each other. The extremists are the people who, unfortunately, get all of the attention.

No 'one' country is better than the other. Each country has its bad points and its good points.
Kabam   Tuesday, June 24, 2003, 09:48 GMT
I didn't read the book but I cannot but agree with your views.
Rock   Tuesday, June 24, 2003, 10:35 GMT
Tout à fait vrai !
Ameobi   Tuesday, June 24, 2003, 20:15 GMT
American one because by definition he has a perfect pronunciation and accent

Why a "he"? Also how do Americans speak English with perfect pronunciation? If you were born in England were English came from, you would extremely disagree that Americans do not pronounce many of their words properly.

ook, I'm using internet. Millions other citizens use the same thing but come and write extremely harsh words towards Americans. Today, the world is becoming smaller and smaller. How is it possible?

You should not forget the role of Americans for making this world a better and a modern place and that's what people from other countries are forced to give more respect and importance to them apart from their accents.

Capitalism, and Free trade have made the world closer together. All spread to Asia, Americas, Africa and by the British Empire. English was spread by the British Empire and all before 1945 when Britain lost it's superpower status and when American gained it's. The World Wide Web has also helped the world become closer together and that was invented by an Englishman. Does this mean we should all start respecting someone who has an English accent? Industrial resolution started it all off, and that came from England. Ever heard of English soccer hooligans? Do we all respect them because they have English accents? Do we all respect Rapstars like 50 Cent who say that they've going to kill certain individuals, do we all respect Klu Klux Klan members because they all have American accents?

Your theory is that because of Hollywood, and food chain McDonalds, aswell as Coca Cola. Because of certain American corporations we should start respecting American accents. That's hilarious.

My writing of English will show you that I'm not belonged to the USA.

So why did you spell "socialise" like "socialize"? The first is used in all English speaking countries except USA. Your writing of English was one of the first reasons I accused you of being American, that and the fact that their are many Americans out there writing indirect patriotic posts to make themselves feel better. Like you.
Boy   Tuesday, June 24, 2003, 22:26 GMT

I don't agree with you. Just read my below post. ( e.g prof)


<snip>No 'one' country is better than the other. Each country has its bad points and its good points<snip>

You made this point and I'm really impressed. When an American dies, we listen to this news 25 times a day on TV. When another citizen dies, we listen to this news only one time a day. How can you say that no citizen is better than the other? or no one country is better than the other?

Your media is trying to prove that Americans are special and the USA is the best country of the world.

why is there an inequality among black and white americans even if no person is better than the other?

When French did not support Americans' aggression. They started telling them a smelly French, you're supporting a dictator this or that, blah, blah.
Americans made them fall so easily and forgot their previous friendship just like you throw an oldie shirt. Correct me If I'm not wrong, the statue of liberty was given to the people of America as a symbol of friendship by the people of France. As a result what they got, harsh words by Americans such as our popular American "Rick".

A long time ago, An American professor visited India, she told me that, oh my god, it was horrible, very chaotic, it was a nightmare to visit there. She made ten thousand errors. Look, this is an attitude that they carry along themselves. To be honest, sometimes I think my cousins are as simple as an ordinary American.

With regarding to your post, my answer is yes. Now, you can understand how uneducated my nation is. You have understood their mentality the way I wanted to tell you. I just showed you their mentality. Americans wear tatto kinda stuff, they start following it blindly because they think they'll look more educated because Americans wear them. This is sorta mentality they've. I don't know how can they make a progress as they make themselves slaves of America.
Clark   Tuesday, June 24, 2003, 23:39 GMT
Boy, you are preaching to the choir, and I do not appreciate it.

I do not really know how to respond to your post, so I will just say a few general things.

The American media does not represent the way Americans feel. Smart Americans do not rely on getting news about world events from CNN.

About the race issue, come to America, and you will quickly see that white males cannot do or say anything about these issues without being politically correct. If a white male were to say "there are more black racist in America that white racists," everyone would get really mad at him. But the second a black person, or anyone who is not a white make, says that "white males are racist and sexist," no one cares. The "race problem" in America goes both ways, but everyone chooses to only see one side of the very big argument.

And of course the American media is going to imply that America is the greatest country because it is the AMERICAN MEDIA!!!!!!!!! Not the French media, or the Mexican media, but the AMERICAN MEDIA!!!!!!! If you go to France, I am sure that the French people would imply that France is the greatest country. Usually this does not mean for everyone, but for the citizens of the country.
abcd   Wednesday, June 25, 2003, 06:02 GMT
I like that idiom or expression :
'you are preaching to the choir'
But I don't know exatly what it conveys.
chantal   Wednesday, June 25, 2003, 06:06 GMT
Someone from a developing country came to France. He said : Oh boy, here even the homeless speak French !
You see, boy. It doesn't mean much. There are 60 million poor Americans. They do speak Amerian English. Are they any better or worse than an Indian who speaks good or bad English. How do you compare them ?
Dorian   Wednesday, June 25, 2003, 06:08 GMT
Yes true Chantal.
Is it any better to be poor in US than in India ? Are we treated better because we are a poor "American" ?
Clark   Wednesday, June 25, 2003, 07:41 GMT
Abcd, when the preacher gets up to preach his sermon, he preaches to the church-goers because they might not know God/Jesus. In theory, the people in the choir would know and believe in God/Jesus. So there you have it; "preaching to the choir."
game   Wednesday, June 25, 2003, 08:06 GMT
Yes Boy
How is better off ? the poor American or the poor Indian ?
My answer is 'None'.
There maybe more solidarity among poor Indian.
game   Wednesday, June 25, 2003, 08:27 GMT
Sorry, typo !
Who is better off ?