IPA query

Tiffany   Wednesday, October 27, 2004, 21:03 GMT
You guys are just repeating yourselves now.
Jim   Wednesday, October 27, 2004, 23:53 GMT
Now? That's what we've been doing for the last half dozen pages ... and, to do it once more: they are both phonemic for me.
Tiffany   Thursday, October 28, 2004, 00:03 GMT
You have a point...
Mi5 Mick   Thursday, October 28, 2004, 03:23 GMT
>>The vowel position is important because it is phonemic, whereas vowel length is unimportant because it is not phonemic.<<

Phonemic distinction is merely but one factor in intelligibility; as is vowel position. There's a lot more to pronunciation than this one factor.