How do you judge an accent as pretentious?

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Guest 2000   Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:16 am GMT
The only people who do this whole "Statian" "US American" crap are uber-PC fruitcakes who are late to the pity party known as the 1990s. Usually it comes from a) nutcases from Canada who shouldn't be taken as representative of their respective country and b) nutcases from South America who make their points on English usage in the most garbled English possible.

Hate to break it to you weirdos, but an American = from the United States. End of story.
MrBush   Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:55 am GMT
I judge a pretentious accent when the speaker of the accent is pretentious when he/she is speaking in a pretentious accent.
Damian in Edinburgh   Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:28 am GMT
***it's similar to arguing the "European Union" is not a good name for a country***

That's an interesting point. Once most European countries have merged together under the European union flag (except perhaps wee little Switzerland, ever the loner, ever the tiny island of neutrality surrouned by the EU mammoth, I wonder if the time will come when we will all have to think up a name appropriate for the world's youngest "Nation"? All I can think of right now is Europa - at least it's a little less boring than Europe, and in any case, Europe would not be approrpiate anyway, as Europe also includes loners like Switzerland - or maybe Norway, too, if they persist in remaining aloof and out in the cold - literally - Norway isn't quite the warmest place to be in January....even worse than Scotland. ;-)

Soon there will be no more space left on the flag for all those little yellow dots all in a circle o the EU flag, will there? I daresay the Eurocrats will solve that problem, much like the Americans did when they kept adjusting their flag as more and more newly formed States joined the American Union.
Guest   Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:40 am GMT
And we will have the PC people distinguishing between "EU Europeans/EUans" and "Swiss/Norweigan Europeans"
Guest   Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:28 am GMT
The EU is meant to include every country in Europe, as well as others from outside Europe like Turkey or eventually Israel. So, I think it's a different case. The real comparison would come when we stated that Swiss are not European in the way you say Mexicans and Canadians are not American. But that is not going to happen, ever. Swiss will always be Europeans in Europe. I mean, how mad would you have to be? We are not Americans.
Guest   Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:31 am GMT
Sorry, I meant to say we are not Stations.
Guest   Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:44 pm GMT
<<The only people who do this whole "Statian" "US American" crap are uber-PC fruitcakes who are late to the pity party known as the 1990s.>>

Some of us do it to poke a little fun at the whole PC thing. I'd rather use "United Statian" or perhaps "United Statesian", since they sound a bit more rediculous.
Usan   Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:00 pm GMT
I'm Usan and proud of it.
Skippy   Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:18 am GMT
I'm an American and would never refer to myself as anything else. Except Texan, of course. :-P
Guest   Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:49 pm GMT
<<Not completely true. I do use it as well. Statian means "from United States". >>

How is that relevant? The fact that you use "Statian" doesn't help us know what the hell you're talking about.

As an American, I don't find the term "Statian" offensive at all, euphemism or not, I just think it's silly to use a word that's incomprehensible to everyone but the person using the word. Kind of like those nut jobs that have a fantasy kingdom in their head and mention it to other people as if it were common knowledge that they're a king. Or those whackadoos that stalk movie stars because they believe the actor is communicating with them telepathically. You should find out if those guys have a forum and post there as well. You're a nut. Do you scream at the pigeons in the supermarket parking lot?

Oh well, at least you're an entertaining nut. I like how you go on and on about our nasal accents in various posts, ....and this was priceless:

<<It happens similarily with people of my own pedigree who speak with accents deemed by me to generally be pleasent>>

Wouldn't someone with your pedigree know how to spell "pleasant"? But please keep posting. The references to "Statian" and nasal accents and shit like this:

<<horrible specimens of our race>>

it's very entertaining stuff. I can only imagine what a horrible specimen of our race would be and what race that is and why you think it's relevant to the OP's question, but it's like a train wreck. It's a tragic mess but you have to watch.
D   Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:26 am GMT
i think someone using a created term like statian is pretentious, come to think of it, if it were spoken in any accent in the english speaking world... it would sound pretentious... hope this helps :)
Guest   Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:52 pm GMT
If a guy acts pretentiously, I judge their accent is most probably pretentious!
Guest   Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:11 pm GMT
Why Stations get so upset and made such a fuss of nothing?, People from all countries are called names, and yours is a fair enough name I reckon. Maybe is not a widely well-known name yet, but who knows? You might be watching the making of history.
Guest   Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:25 pm GMT
Probably not, and it's clear English isn't even your first language. Inelegance and inefficiency in language is strongly selected against.
Guest   Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:24 pm GMT
The usage of the word "Statian" is pretentious itself, bordering on the ridiculous.
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