Stigmatised Standard

MollyB   Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:00 am GMT
Many people on many fora/ums talk about the stigmatisation connected with nonstandard forms of English, but very few people talk about stigmatisation connected with the standard form.

Why is that?
Guest   Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:02 am GMT
I seem to recall a number of posts where Europeans bash GAE, the closest thing we have to Standard English over on this side of the pond.
Guest   Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:57 pm GMT
Europeans will take any opportunity they can to bash Americans, even if it means pulling non-sequiturs related to US history out of their asses to do so. (Which is usually the case, e.g. slavery, native Americans, the Texas revolution) It's usually considered to be in bad taste to badmouth Europe in a similar fashion.
Travis   Fri Jun 13, 2008 4:14 pm GMT
Usually the people though who really bash GA are not British, though, despite the tendency to rather lightly make fun of aspects of North American English, but rather are non-native speakers from Europe who seem to have this idea that RP is "better" for whatever reason (and that GA of all things is somehow "non-standard" or even "sub-standard"). Mind you though that many of these people also don't realize that most Britons don't speak RP, and considering how obsessed many of them seem to be with speaking English as "standardly" as possible, don't realize that most Americans actually speak closer to a standard variety of English than most Britons.
Guest   Sat Jun 14, 2008 5:03 am GMT
The problem with American english is that is very annoying, too rhotic and nasal, slow and flat sounding. British English not the RP (estuary, up to mid-country is very soft and appealing to your ears, more euphonic), just ask yourself why the americans love the british accent and the brits hate the american accent, its not just the non english-speaking europeans.

Indeed American English sounds better than the northern shitty British accents like yorkshire, mancunian, scouse, geordie, etc. But the southern british accents are the best.
Guest   Sat Jun 14, 2008 6:08 am GMT
"Indeed American English sounds better than the northern shitty British accents like yorkshire, mancunian, scouse, geordie, etc. "

What a prick you are. Please tell that directly to somone from one of those areas.
London boy   Sat Jun 14, 2008 6:17 am GMT
"What a prick you are. Please tell that directly to somone from one of those area"

I don't have to tell them, they know that, they are the british rednecks, go ask the southern british, they'll tell northerners "hoch deutsch bitte" the'll assume you speak a german accent. lol

yorkshire, mancunian, scouse, geordie, are the worst british accents, its a fact and even american english sounds better.
Guest   Sat Jun 14, 2008 6:24 am GMT
<< yorkshire, mancunian, scouse, geordie, are the worst british accents, its a fact and even american english sounds better. >>

No. American English is simply closer to southern English accents. Northern English accents are just as good as anything else.
Guest   Sat Jun 14, 2008 6:45 am GMT
hey- hop flower, have you ever been to northern England love? LOL.
The suck at english
Guest   Sat Jun 14, 2008 6:47 am GMT
Maybe in your opinion.
Guest   Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:19 am GMT
Hiya Love, yallright love intit love tara, Northern British accents are very working class and uneducated.
Guest   Sat Jun 14, 2008 2:18 pm GMT
Southern Britsh accents are very low class and redneckish, think Cornwalish, Devonshirese and Cockney.
Guest   Sat Jun 14, 2008 5:44 pm GMT
It's a relief to see someone else besides the Americans being picked on for a change.
Guest   Sat Jun 14, 2008 6:57 pm GMT
"Hiya Love, yallright love intit love tara, Northern British accents are very working class and uneducated."

I dislike northern british, but the US accents are far more rednecky and uncultivated. think of nasal midwest, rednecky southern accents and annoying NY.
Guest   Sat Jun 14, 2008 7:04 pm GMT
Valley girl accents are awesome, aren't they?