An Accent Of New Jersey!????

Elliott (myspace.com/ellu   Sat May 19, 2007 2:28 am GMT
Yes, I'm 16, and i grew up all around the NJ/NYC Metro Area, I've lived in "Bwooklyn" , "Da Bronx" and "Noith bergehn" and i'm used to the all the accents but i have a medium NJ. It comes out, the "woo-der" thing. It makes me laugh. But what about the "coh-nah" (corner) and "dawg" (dog)?
curious   Mon Jul 09, 2007 12:44 pm GMT
This is so interesting! I've never been to New Jersey in my life, but I'm very curious about accents of all kinds (everyone speaks with an accent, after all). I wanted to know how to phonetically write out the New Jersey accent. I have to admit, to my west coast ears, the New York/New Jersey accents sound extremely similar, so obviously I need help. The suggestion at the start of this thread to watch "Clerks" sounds helpful, but I found that when people wrote out "cawfee" and "hahrrible" that was even more helpful. I'd love more of that, please. Thanks!

There's one thing I wanted to mention, though. I'm from Southern California (born and raised) and have lived on the west coast of the United States for most of my life. I've been told that I have a "west" or "general american" accent. But people here are saying that someone with a "general american" accent does not pronounce the "t" in "button", "winter", "center", or "internet". I've always pronounced the "t" in these words. I say "but-ton", pronouncing both ts. Occasionally I might say "buh-ton", but there is definitely a "t" there. Why would anyone not pronounce them? I've never heard anyone on the west coast drop the ts, or if I have, I haven't noticed it. T is a lovely letter (I definitely pronounce it in "letter" too, twice, in fact), it might get lonely if it's forgotten. I never knew I was weird for pronouncing the "t", or that anyone else around me was weird either. Can someone clear the "t" thing up?
Lilly   Mon Jul 09, 2007 7:06 pm GMT
Well, in more informal contexts, you can keep Ns in ''center, internet, winter'' silent, and pronounce them like ''cenner, innernet, winner'' ;)

But, in formal style it's better to avoid this (the same way you would avoid LEMME or GIMME ;) )
maggs   Wed Jul 18, 2007 1:43 am GMT
ok so from a south jersey girl:
I think the biggest difference in english in south jersey is the sayings.
'jimmies' belong on ice cream not sprinkles
we go 'down the shore' never to the beach
i also drink 'wooder' not wah-ter and soda not pop
plus everything especially the mall is usually "about 20 minutes away"
otherwise, i pretty much never pronounce t's in the middle of a word, they always come out as d's or not at all.

funny story, after my cousins moved out to the midwest with their jersey mother, the littlest came home with kindergaten rhyming homework. My aunt proceeded to insist to her that frog and dog do not rhyme. My cousin came home upset the next day because the teacher told her she was wrong. But it's true around here they just don't rhyme.

*please do not consider the NY and NJ accent to be the same, its rather insulting (also north and south jersey)
maggs   Wed Jul 18, 2007 1:45 am GMT
oh and i have no idea how to pump my own gas. I like it that way =]
Kess   Wed Jul 18, 2007 6:20 am GMT
An Accent Of New Jersey!????

In this accent ORANGE, FLORIDA, FOREST, FOREIGN, HORRIBLE and HORROR have /A/, but FROG, COFFEE, DOG, CAUGHT, LONG, SONG, TALL have /Q/

in California ORANGE, FLORIDA, FOREST, FOREIGN, HORRIBLE and HORROR have /Q/, while FROG, COFFEE, DOG, CAUGHT, LONG, SONG, TALL have /A/
Josh Lalonde   Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:40 pm GMT
<<In this accent ORANGE, FLORIDA, FOREST, FOREIGN, HORRIBLE and HORROR have /A/, but FROG, COFFEE, DOG, CAUGHT, LONG, SONG, TALL have /Q/

in California ORANGE, FLORIDA, FOREST, FOREIGN, HORRIBLE and HORROR have /Q/, while FROG, COFFEE, DOG, CAUGHT, LONG, SONG, TALL have /A/>>

I'm not sure if New Jersey has the Tory-torrent merger or not, but I know California doesn't. 'orange', 'Florida', etc. would all have [Or\] in California, while 'frog', 'coffee', etc. would have [A] or [Q].
Kess   Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:11 am GMT
the voice of Smurfette in the episode Baby Smurf has the NJ accent

''What's the baby doing in the forest /fAr@st/?'' :=)
Kess   Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:05 am GMT
Guest   Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:15 pm GMT
As a NYer in exile in NJ, I agree with maggs that confusion of the NY/NJ accents is indeed insulting.
scar   Wed Aug 01, 2007 6:31 pm GMT
i know this is kind of late but i pronounce florida, horrible and forest with an AR sound but moral and coral with an OR sound.
i am from NJ
i pronounce america with a short o like of.
i say bath like baeth but camera and manager with a short a. but most people pronounce it like caemera and maenager. i do say Spaenish and Maeryland for some reason though. this accent is definitely not all inclusive
Amal   Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:58 pm GMT
North Jersey accents - watch Sopranos. the end.

I am from Northeast NJ and their accents on the show are VERY true to the way many people talk (or should i say, TAWK) around here.
heh??   Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:26 pm GMT
I have lived in NJ my entire life. And I live right on the coast and NOT ONCE have I heard a local say we are going down the shore. I have said my whole life... "Going to the beach." I also say wah-ter. not wooter. It is spelled with an A. The only part of NJ that has an accent is the northeastern half, which should be disconnected and added to NY.
Interested   Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:42 am GMT
OH, beg to differ.

I'm from NJ and have a strong regional NJ accent. Newark NJ, Central Ward. Prior to that, I lived in SW NJ. Later than that, I lived in Mass. Later still, in SE NJ. Yet the regional accent is still strong.

My accent is stronger than a person's accent that lived 2 blocks away. Jersey City accent is nothing like Newark accent.

Some blacks these days that hear my accent, says it sounds almost like "gangsta black" - that is, nothing like the old Southern accent associated with blacks (I'm not black, btw).

We do not ever say "joisey" or anything like what others make fun of as a NJ accent. No one from NJ talks like that, save a few that were mostly in NYC. Then again, hardly anyone in NY talks like that, perhaps a few from the Bronx or Brooklyn did that I ever heard.

Ever watch the Sopranos? Most of the actors playing Italians on that show talk like NJ people, where my accent comes from.

I can't possibly spell how I'd say words out, since anyone reading it would "think the sounds" of the phonetic spelling the way THEY speak these sounds, not as I'd speak them.
Interested   Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:57 am GMT
More later

The two talking on this url
http://www.ku.edu/~idea/northamerica/usa/newjersey/newjersey.htm

sound like people with a light NJ accent. Very light.

I listened to quite a few of these - all the states are listed on that site. I was not surprised that I had a hard time understanding a word that the people from N Carolina said. I had a hard time understanding them when I once stopped there to ask directions. PHEW. I think the W. Virginia samples are not up to par, tho. I had a friend from there and I could NOT understand him when he was speaking over a phone. He'd say "yes" like: yay-ess, yay pronounced like Y in front of the word "eye".