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choose   Sun Dec 28, 2008 6:04 am GMT
Do you really pronounce the invisible 'g' in the word 'blank?'
Lazar   Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:15 pm GMT
There's no such thing as an "invisible g". "Blank" is pronounced as [ˈblæŋk] (although the vowel quality may vary depending on dialect), with a velar nasal, if that's what you mean. A sequence like [ˈblænk] would not be allowed in English phonology.
choose   Mon Dec 29, 2008 12:10 pm GMT
Dear Lazar,
I understand how fond you are of this gibberish letters and symbols thing. But could you please use simple English when gracefully answering my queries?
:((
Now, without integrating any mumbojumbo here, do you really pronounce the damn 'g' in 'blank' or not? I had never really paid any mind to it while in the US. A coincidental visit to dictionary.com is what brought the matter to my attn.
User   Mon Dec 29, 2008 12:54 pm GMT
If you are ignorant of phonetics, there is no easy way to explain this to you. My best advice is that you pronounce it as you hear it.
Johnny   Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:43 pm GMT
<<A sequence like [ˈblænk] would not be allowed in English phonology.>>

Do you mean /n/ + /k/? Isn't that what Americans say when they say "ten cars" or "increase", "uncanny", "uncontrollable"?
I know in the UK it is common to actually say "teng cars" (/ŋk/) instead, but I don't think that's universal in every English dialect, since I think that doesn't happen in most American dialects.
Johnny   Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:47 pm GMT
<<Now, without integrating any mumbojumbo here, do you really pronounce the damn 'g' in 'blank' or not? I had never really paid any mind to it while in the US. A coincidental visit to dictionary.com is what brought the matter to my attn. >>

In "blank", my tongue doesn't touch the roof of my mouth like it does when I pronounce the N in PIN, for example. So it's the other kind of N, like the one in "ping"... then you add a K sound, and you are done. I hope this will help you a little.
Q   Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:58 pm GMT
"Do you mean /n/ + /k/? Isn't that what Americans say when they say "ten cars" or "increase", "uncanny", "uncontrollable"?"

I am an American and, out of those, I only say /nk/ for "ten cars"
Estel   Mon Dec 29, 2008 4:34 pm GMT
Just to give choose what s/he wants, "blank" is pronounced like /blangk/.
and /ng/ is representation of an /ng/ sound in "sing, bring, king" etc.

hope that clarifies what Lazar has previously described.
Lazar   Mon Dec 29, 2008 5:26 pm GMT
<<I understand how fond you are of this gibberish letters and symbols thing.>>

It's not gibberish, it's the International Phonetic Alphabet, which is universally used by linguists. I picked it up quite easily a few years ago with no specialist training at all.

<<But could you please use simple English when gracefully answering my queries?>>

No. If you're interested in phonetic detail, then you need to understand how phonetics works and how sounds are transcribed.
Skywise   Mon Dec 29, 2008 5:53 pm GMT
Lazar   Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:11 pm GMT
Another thing I forgot to add, I'm not gay so please don't call me 'Dear'.
Lazar   Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:12 pm GMT
The post above was written by a troll (the same one who was going on about "Gaysachusetts" in another thread), not by me.
Caspian   Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:01 pm GMT
However as people keep pointing out, we're not real linguists - i.e. it's not necessarily our profession. Surely if somebody requests politely that the simple Alphabet, rather that any form of phonetic spelling be used, as they have not yet learnt it, then surely it would be courteous to do so, rather than refuse flat-out? I'm not wanting to spark an argument, only I do think this response rather unreasonable. It's not at all necessary to know phonetic alphabets, merely an optional extra if one finds the extra advantage sufficiently beneficial.
Caspian   Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:06 pm GMT
Yes, I would say that I use the 'invisible g' in this word, although if I were concentrating, I probably would not.
Lazar   Mon Dec 29, 2008 10:31 pm GMT
<<Surely if somebody requests politely that the simple Alphabet, rather that any form of phonetic spelling be used, as they have not yet learnt it, then surely it would be courteous to do so, rather than refuse flat-out?>>

The simple alphabet isn't suited to conveying phonetic information.

<<Yes, I would say that I use the 'invisible g' in this word, although if I were concentrating, I probably would not.>>

I'm not being sarcastic here: I really don't know what you're talking about. How would your pronunciation of "blank" be different if you were concentrating or if you were not concentrating? As I said above, blank is pronounced [ˈblæŋk], with a velar nasal followed by a voiceless velar plosive.