How do you see "look at" in the sentence below?

MollyB   Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:19 pm GMT
How do you see "look at" in the sentence below?

He stared at the moon.

As:

1. (simple) verb + prepositional phrase (consisting of Prep + NP, in turn).

or:

2. (complex) verb (consisting of V + Prep) and NP (as object).
Leasnam   Wed Jun 10, 2009 6:32 pm GMT
I see # 1
Pam   Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:07 pm GMT
I see 2.
Leasnam   Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:15 pm GMT
Sometimes it's #2, like in

"He brought up a good point"

where the division is:
He brought up | a good point

because the 'up' is part of the verb (i.e. the verb: to 'bring up')

but not all verbs are phrasal...when I read:

"He stared at the moon"
I see it only as:
He stared | at the moon

with no distinct verb: to 'stare at'

only: to 'stare'
Mufti   Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:15 pm GMT
Could be either.
Lazar   Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:20 pm GMT
I think it's #1. Maybe we could devise a test to see the difference: if the verb + preposition combo can be reformulated like: "He brought it up," then it's a phrasal verb. We can't say *"He stared it at."
Mufti   Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:32 am GMT
<but not all verbs are phrasal...when I read: >

That's right, some are prepositional verbs.
MollyB   Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:36 am GMT
Leasnam, Mufti, etc., I see these as prepositional verbs. Do you?

He's fallen for her.
He looks after the children every day.
He's talking about you again.
I believe in you.
MrPedantic   Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:08 am GMT
"At the moon" is a prepositional adverbial phrase, and qualifies "stare".

(The meaning of "stare at" can be readily inferred from "stare" and "at", which demonstrates that the two words in conjunction do not form a new semantic unit.)

Cf. the same question here:

http://thegrammarexchange.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/340600179/m/189103671

MrP
MollyB   Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:55 am GMT
<"At the moon" is a prepositional adverbial phrase, and qualifies "stare".>

You mean YOU see it that way, right?
MollyB   Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:06 am GMT
Are both these OK?

The moon was stared at.
?The drawer was looked in.
Mufti   Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:14 am GMT
Does anyone see "kept to" as a single element below?

"He kept to his offer."
Mufti   Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:16 am GMT
And here?

"He kept his boss to his offer."
Nancy   Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:30 am GMT
And how about "sent her out into the world"? Is that a prepositional verb?
Mufti   Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:46 am GMT
<<"At the moon" is a prepositional adverbial phrase, and qualifies "stare".

(The meaning of "stare at" can be readily inferred from "stare" and "at", which demonstrates that the two words in conjunction do not form a new semantic unit.) >>

Would you say the same of this?

"Elvis turned up his collar."