MR. Mxsmanic
>>Koreans are no different from any other ESL students, irrespective of what they might like to believe.
Not Koreans but professionals can find/understand the difference..... Do you think that you are professional?
>>Phoneticians and linguists do not usually teach ESL, - - -.
Then, what do they do?
>>However, - - - any native speaker who has an ability to teach and has some reasonable knowledge of grammar.
Most USA ESL teachers say that East Asians know more on English grammar than themselves.
It's no coincidence that - - -.
No comment.
Koreans can mimic sounds based on CDs just as anyone else can; Koreans who refuse to believe this, however, are likely to never acquire fluency in English.
I (and most people, I think, frankly speaking) do not want fluency.
When I mentioned describing how to produce sounds, though, - - - .
Do you know how to produce sounds using the vocal tract? What do you mean by the vocal tract? I think that the word of vocal mechanism is better than the vocal tract.
>>This requires a teacher who knows how she is producing various sounds though, and so it's not always an option. You can read books to find descriptions, if you cannot find a teacher who knows them. From what I've read, it seems that Koreans have a mountain of preconceived ideas concerning ESL, and that these ideas cripple them in their attempts to learn English.
As you say, when the so-called phoneticians with research experience can not suggest an effective way, what do you mean by “teacher” and how can we find an able teacher? Rather, it will be better that Korean myself find the ultimate method on how to produce voice.
mr. garans
>>Is "lingistic" a word for "linguistics" or this spelling reflect your phonetic interpretation? :)
http://www.academici.com/net/lingistics.
http://www.academici.com/hp/YoungWon_Kim
The person who made/wrote the above URL is an English of “academici”, not me, though I and many other gentlepersons often misspell, which most people (except you) do not mind so much when discussing seriously with knowledge.
>>Koreans are no different from any other ESL students, irrespective of what they might like to believe.
Not Koreans but professionals can find/understand the difference..... Do you think that you are professional?
>>Phoneticians and linguists do not usually teach ESL, - - -.
Then, what do they do?
>>However, - - - any native speaker who has an ability to teach and has some reasonable knowledge of grammar.
Most USA ESL teachers say that East Asians know more on English grammar than themselves.
It's no coincidence that - - -.
No comment.
Koreans can mimic sounds based on CDs just as anyone else can; Koreans who refuse to believe this, however, are likely to never acquire fluency in English.
I (and most people, I think, frankly speaking) do not want fluency.
When I mentioned describing how to produce sounds, though, - - - .
Do you know how to produce sounds using the vocal tract? What do you mean by the vocal tract? I think that the word of vocal mechanism is better than the vocal tract.
>>This requires a teacher who knows how she is producing various sounds though, and so it's not always an option. You can read books to find descriptions, if you cannot find a teacher who knows them. From what I've read, it seems that Koreans have a mountain of preconceived ideas concerning ESL, and that these ideas cripple them in their attempts to learn English.
As you say, when the so-called phoneticians with research experience can not suggest an effective way, what do you mean by “teacher” and how can we find an able teacher? Rather, it will be better that Korean myself find the ultimate method on how to produce voice.
mr. garans
>>Is "lingistic" a word for "linguistics" or this spelling reflect your phonetic interpretation? :)
http://www.academici.com/net/lingistics.
http://www.academici.com/hp/YoungWon_Kim
The person who made/wrote the above URL is an English of “academici”, not me, though I and many other gentlepersons often misspell, which most people (except you) do not mind so much when discussing seriously with knowledge.