Ancient Greek/Modern Greek differences and similarities

Brennus   Tue May 02, 2006 11:04 pm GMT
"Kodospina" is what I read and it is derived from Slavic gospodina "housewife" with metathesis. Ancient Greek oikos "house" was replaced by 'spiti' from Latin hospitium in Modern Greek. I would imagine that oiko- in Modern Greek words has been introduced artifically.
Taso   Wed May 03, 2006 9:54 am GMT
Hi Brennus.

The word is gospodin for male and gospoza for female both in Bulgarian and Russian <I speak Bulgarian and i can understand a bit of Russian>

Their primary meaning is Mr,Mrs and their secondary is master and housekeeper.

There is no word kodospina in Greek only oikodespina<explanation given above> I don't say that there aren't slavic words in the Greek language but this is not the case.

Words ecology and economy are as you mentioned artificialy created ,like other: Eg stethoscope term introduced by Laennec in 1817 ,uraemia 1840 by
Piorry.

The word spiti is used more often than oikia.
But here are some words used in daily basis:
Oikogeneia<family> ,katoikia <home> ,katoikos<inhabitant>
These words are not artificially created and derived from the ancient greek.

Sometimes there are two words used for one meaning:
Oikos and spiti for home as Brennus said , leukos and aspros for home <aspros derives from the Latin asper-rough> ,ihthys and opsarion for fish
<word opsarion appeared if remember correctly late in the 1 century BC>
BOB   Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:07 pm GMT
Your pronounciation of biblical greek is wrong!
Leonidas   Sun Dec 24, 2006 3:42 am GMT
There is another topic about todays' greek language that I found in this forum too. Check it out! Fascinating stuff. (Read Sotiris' posts too! :-))

http://www.antimoon.com/forum/t5743.htm
Predrag   Sun Dec 24, 2006 5:37 am GMT
Yes, the topic quoted was very interesting. I would like to have more input regarding the ideas and facts mentioned there. Someone who knows more about languages has anything to add about this?
Scanderberg   Sun Dec 24, 2006 9:58 am GMT
I just noticed that this topic about GREEK LANGUAGE is moderated and closed,due to hate-spam comments by sockpuppets like Sotiris.
Predrag   Sun Dec 24, 2006 11:02 am GMT
I don't know what do you mean by that. I didn't read any hate messages there. I'm guessing that Scanderbeg (Albanian National Hero for those who don't know) is an Albanian who is protecting his Greek neighbors from pressumably hate spam from other slavs who live in Balkans.

I didn't see anything like that in that topic. I think it's all in your mind. Slavs are too busy with their problems right now to care about Greeks or anything regarding them, including their language, no matter how funny that is. Stop being paranoid! You are hurting everyone with that. Let's talk about languages. We have no problem if you discuss about Serbian, Croatian, Macedonian languages. Please do so.
Terry   Tue Dec 26, 2006 10:48 am GMT
classical scholars will tell you classical greek and modern greek have 85% similarity.

modern greek has more english loan words today than any other language.

tufeki is turkish but oplo is the word used in modern greek
kodospina is never used in modern greek.. the word used in modern greek is noikokira.

if you want to learn more about modern greek please visit this website.

http://www.translatum.gr/


the ignorance shown on this forum is amazing.

Terry

What do typical Greeks in Greece look like?

http://greekmilitary.net/Greek%20Troops/Picture%20052R.jpg
http://greekmilitary.net/Army%20Parade%202005/1Hellenic_soldier_Greece_02.jpg

Yes I love Greece and Greeks, I think they are remarkable people.

Please back up your statements before making authorative statements about Greece and Greeks, I will be watching you.
Leonidas   Tue Dec 26, 2006 4:28 pm GMT
All the smart alek guys were saying "greek is funny language" but they
failed to quote just one funny greek word. LOL. :-)
Boban   Tue Dec 26, 2006 5:55 pm GMT
@Predrag

Slavs have time for everything, brate ;-)

Don't delete this please! Ne vise!
TerryIonPelasgusCalliopeB   Wed Dec 27, 2006 3:41 pm GMT
In order to understand the differences between todays' greek and ancient greek, you should at least be specialised in turkish and/or persian and see the influence that those two languages have had on the greek language during the centuries, especially during more that 500 years of turkish otomans' ruling of Greece, during which, most of the otoman soldiers either married greek women or just had children with them. That's why greeks today look nothing like greeks of ancient times, in sculptures, mosaics, etc, etc, but look identical to their turkish neighbors. This is another topic, so it deserves another place.

Anyway, greeks and turks share the same identical faces, culture, music, songs, cuisine, probably genes too, but speak two different languages, no matter how interdependent those languages can be at this time.

Modern Greek = Ancient greek + Persian + Arab + Turkish + Albanian + Bulgarian + Macedonian + Serbian + maybe some Afrikaan.

So, you must know deeply all those languages to understand how complex and hard greek language has become during all these years.
TerryIonPelasgusCalliopeB   Wed Dec 27, 2006 3:54 pm GMT
There is more about this in one of the most succesful topics in this forum, where greeks posters took their precious time and explanied to all of us in detail their language's long transformation. God bless them!


http://www.antimoon.com/forum/t5743.htm


This forum is great.
Guest   Wed Dec 27, 2006 4:00 pm GMT
Albanians and Bosniaks,the only people who share the same religion with Ottomans Turks.Intermarriages between different religions were forbidden.You don't have a clue of ottoman history.Have you heard about devshirme?
Guest   Wed Dec 27, 2006 4:01 pm GMT
<All the smart alek guys were saying "greek is funny language" but they
failed to quote just one funny greek word. LOL. :-)>

I agree with Leonidas
Guest   Wed Dec 27, 2006 4:19 pm GMT
To the smart alecks.Ion is Romanian,not Greek!

http://www.antimoon.com/forum/t5657-0.htm

Where is Bogdan or Vassilis or Sotiris?........

I always overlook the "Trol posters" and read what Brennus is saying