A Question to all: [...]

Jav   Sat May 06, 2006 4:55 pm GMT
Hehehe, it seems I'm really getting interested finding out what happened here!

Aldo_b,

>>Tell me if I'm wrong but I find your comments (and from other) as discriminating and repressive as the ones you criticise. It seems some would like to start a witch hunt against latin language speakers because there are "too much" around here. <<

As far as I can see, the people I 'criticise' haven't got many respect here, just look at Travis' post.Do you indentify with these people who have, and I quote, "completely runn over the place scaring off most of the other users in the process" ?

I do not wish to generalise, but I think typical attitudes of these internet Latin trolls are the following.They seem to:
- hate or have a strong disliking of English or Anglophone nations.
- strong disliking of other, especially Germanic, languages other than the Romance group.
- Extreme 'love'/obsession with Romance languages*

* ie. if he or she would post a message in one of this forums many "which languages do you like best" topics, it would be a list of all romance languages.And he or she would attack anyone who did not post a romance language first.

I did a google search of the site and I came along with a post made by 'Aldo' .As you wrote, "I don't like to sound resentful but things calmed down once he left the forum", it would seem you and him are the same person.

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Aldo Fri Dec 09, 2005 11:39 pm GMT
All languages are important but the best part of English is its simplicity. Tenses are simple, articles and adjetives have no gender, lots of words of romance and Greek origin, verbs are very regular and conjugations are quite easy maybe too much and make a mistake is easy too

I think that's the reason why English is very extended worldwide and used like a bridge to interchange information between people who speak other languages. That's what I love of it.

And that has nothing to do with the "POWER" of any country !!!!
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You seem like an intelligent person, so why would you denigrate English grammar and deny that English' main source of 'power' is the fact that the 2 main superpowers of the 20th century were English speaking?

You also wrote:
>>He never said it but it was way clear for everybody.<<

I can't find much of you (Aldo) in the archives, are you an actual forum regular?

Well, we could actually test that 'everybody' statement of yours :-)

Brennus, Candy and Travis, do you think this Sander hated Romance languages? Or better yet, how would you describe him?

(I know this must sound very odd for all of you, having a complete stranger ask you all this.But I'm just really fascinated by this site.It feels like I'm some kind of 'Online Archaeologist':-)
Candy   Sat May 06, 2006 5:14 pm GMT
<<Brennus, Candy and Travis, do you think this Sander hated Romance languages?>>

Not at all. He just got very irritated with people who posted the kind of things you mentioned in your post above. Unfortunately, he could be a liitle 'combative', to put it mildly. He and the trolls seemed to wind each other up a lot. But Sander's a lot saner than he often appeared on Antimoon :)
Aldo_b   Sat May 06, 2006 5:46 pm GMT
Ok! the hunting started !

Yes you are right I'm that Aldo. I sign Aldo_b because there are other or others Aldos around who sign that way as well.

<<so why would you denigrate English grammar...>>

Do you really think that the phrases "but the best part of English" and "That's what I love of it." denigrate English? I can't understand why people feel offended when one says that this or that language is easy or simple gramatically. Simply that's my perception even if somebody doesn't like it.

<<...and deny that English' main source of 'power' is the fact that the 2 main superpowers of the 20th century were English speaking? >>

That's just points of view, yours and mine no more no less and which obviously are not the same and which I don't want to talk about one more time.
Jav   Sat May 06, 2006 6:29 pm GMT
>>Ok! the hunting started ! <<

I'm not trying to start a fight aldo, there is no need to make silly remarks.

>>That's just points of view, yours and mine no more no less and which obviously are not the same and which I don't want to talk about one more time.<<

Excuse me aldo, but denying that the present English dominance as the no1 world language has nothing to do with the influence of English speaking countries but rest solely in its simplicity ... that's just plain stupid.

If that were true, that the easiest language becomes the no1, then why isn't it esperanto? As opposed to English, it was designed to be simple and easy, with a lot of Romance and Greek loans and it has no country to represent it.It would be the ideal candidate to prove your theory ...being false that is. ;-)
Jav   Sat May 06, 2006 6:30 pm GMT
Oh, and thank you very much Candy for your reply!
Guest   Sat May 06, 2006 8:24 pm GMT
<<Brennus, Candy and Travis, do you think this Sander hated Romance languages?

Not at all. He just got very irritated with people who posted the kind of things you mentioned in your post above. Unfortunately, he could be a liitle 'combative', to put it mildly. He and the trolls seemed to wind each other up a lot. But Sander's a lot saner than he often appeared on Antimoon :) >>

Are we talking about the same Sander who once said "I like the Germanic languages more then the romance (latin) languages.
Mainly because I myself speak a germanic language.I like languages where I can relate to.Im sorry for all the romance-speakers ,but your languages sound a bit gay/femine to me." ?
Guest   Sat May 06, 2006 8:37 pm GMT
Saying you like something better than something else doesn't mean (by far) you hate it.
Fredrik from Norway   Sun May 07, 2006 2:43 am GMT
But Sander also said that German sounds gay!

For him, only Dutch is hard and masculine enough!
Aldo_b   Sun May 07, 2006 3:27 am GMT
Jav, as I said I won't talk about that theme again. It for sure will lead us to a political discussion and this is not allowed here. Anyway I got tired to fight the intense devotion of nationalists.

As to Sander I remember he was a nice member in the beginning but as somebody said he got very irritated with offensive or silly replies. He didn't use to ignore them until he exploded and became a very temperamental guy, particularly against romance languages topics even without provocation.
Geoff_One   Sun May 07, 2006 3:34 am GMT
>>You didn't know Sander. ... Although his name occurs in many of the 'fights' I saw in the archives, ... <<

Sander - He may be gone, but his fame lives on.
Guest   Sun May 07, 2006 6:31 am GMT
I miss him.
Jav   Sun May 07, 2006 8:56 am GMT
>>For him, only Dutch is hard and masculine enough! <<

Hehehe, well I'm Dutch myself, and I too think German, or at least the standard form of it sounds very "gay". High, stacato etc.
Kuni   Sun May 07, 2006 10:53 am GMT
Almost every German speaks a dialect, and not the standard form of German! The coolest German dialects are Saarländisch and Schwäbisch :)
Guest   Sun May 07, 2006 10:56 am GMT
an ACCENT is not the saam as a DIALECT
Kuni   Sun May 07, 2006 11:19 am GMT
Sure, it's not the same!
But I was talking about dialects (not accents) which do not only describe features of grammar and vocabulary but also aspects of pronounciation!