Is will=would?

jtk   Sun May 21, 2006 10:42 pm GMT
Are these both words same?
Benjamin   Sun May 21, 2006 11:07 pm GMT
No — 'will' is future, whilst 'would' is conditional.

However, 'will' and 'shall' usually the same thing (there actually is officially a slight difference, but we don't really bother with it anymore).
Tommie   Mon May 22, 2006 4:40 pm GMT
<No — 'will' is future, whilst 'would' is conditional.
>

Is it future here?

"They will be there by now."

Is would conditional here?

"When I was a child, we would always go to the forest in summer."
Benjamin   Mon May 22, 2006 4:54 pm GMT
No, I forgot —

'they will be there by now' = 'I expect that they will be there by now'

'when I was a child, we would always go to the forest in the summer'
= 'when I was a child, we always used to go to the forest in the summer'

The words 'will' and 'would' have multiple meanings; but the question was whether or not they had the same meaning, which they do not.
Ant_222   Mon May 22, 2006 4:54 pm GMT
Anyway, they are different.
Ant_222   Mon May 22, 2006 4:59 pm GMT
For jtk not to be confused: «would» and «wil» are not interchangable.

Tommie:
«Is it future here?
"They will be there by now."»

What does it mean?
«They should have arrived?» or
«They can arrive every minute»?
jtk   Mon May 22, 2006 9:01 pm GMT
Thanks I got it.

Can we use "will" and "would" both in a sentence?
If yes, please make an example. Thanks.
Ant_222   Tue May 23, 2006 12:34 pm GMT
«Although I would prefer using Adobe Pagemaker, I will do this in InDesign, as your boss requires.»
Tommie   Tue May 23, 2006 6:47 pm GMT
<What does it mean?
«They should have arrived?» or
«They can arrive every minute»? >

The first one, but the speaker is more sure with "will".