SpaceFlight   Sun May 06, 2007 12:00 am GMT
Is this word itself a protologism?
Lazar   Sun May 06, 2007 1:14 am GMT
A *what*? Okay, says that "protologism" is Wiktionary jargon, meaning "a newly coined word or phrase defined in the hope that it will become accepted into the language; a recently created term possibly in narrow use but not yet in general use." By that standard, I suppose "protologism" is itself a protologism; but I really don't see the difference between "protologism" and "neologism" in the first place. It just seems as if they needlessly created a synonym of "neologism"; I don't get the point.
SpaceFlight   Sun May 06, 2007 1:50 am GMT
Yeah, I too wonder why they even created the word in the first place. It seems unnecessary as we already have the word "neologism", so why not just use it?
Lazar   Sun May 06, 2007 2:00 am GMT
On that page they actually give a citation of someone calling something "a neologistic protologism." ;-)
greg   Sun May 06, 2007 8:33 am GMT
Lazar : peut-être que le protologisme est un pseudonéologisme ?
Jim   Sun May 06, 2007 2:41 pm GMT
I believe the distinction between proto~ & neologism is not insignificant. Anything can be a protologism:they're just made-up words. However, as I understand it, to be a neologism a word must have some degree of currency.
Lazar   Sun May 06, 2007 3:16 pm GMT
Wiktionary defines "neologism" as "a word or phrase which has recently been coined; a new word or phrase"; most other dictionaries seem to give similar definitions.

So I suppose that by these definitions, a neologism may or may not have currency, whereas a protologism definitely doesn't have currency yet. Protologisms, then, would be a subset of neologisms. (This leads me to think that "protologistic neologism" would actually be more accurate than "neologistic protologism", regarding the citation that I mentioned above.) But I'm still not sure if this distinction is really necessary.
Jim   Sun May 06, 2007 4:52 pm GMT
... unless you were to argue that a thing without any currency is not really a word.
Liz   Mon May 07, 2007 10:46 am GMT
<<peut-être que le protologisme est un pseudonéologisme ?>>

Je crois que oui.

"Neologistic protologisms" and "protologistic neologisms" should be listed on another thread:

It's amazing how people who make their lives more complicated.

Sorry, but I'm not a neologist by nature. To be more precise, I have nothing against coining new words as long as there is any sense in doing so, which is obviously not this case.