The matter is that "use to" is not an auxiliary or modal verb but rather a pseudomodal verb, like "have to", "need to", "want to", "be supposed to", "like to", and so on; that is, a verb that does not pattern like a modal or auxiliary verb that fits a modal or other auxiliary type role. The matter is that most pseudomodal verbs pattern like other normal verbs in English, and can be used with auxiliary and modal verbs and even other pseudomodal verbs; the only difference between "use to" and other pseudomodal verbs is that it lacks a present tense.
did used to
<<I dared not ask
I didn't dare ask <
'Which one has the quasi form?'
The first form follows modal verb patterns when forming questions (moving the auxiliary verb before the subject rather than putting the auxiliary verb 'do') and negatives(just using 'not' rather than 'do' and 'not'.) The second forms questions and negatives like any ordinary verb.
1) dare I ask? I dare not ask
2) do I dare ask? I don't dare ask
David
I didn't dare ask <
'Which one has the quasi form?'
The first form follows modal verb patterns when forming questions (moving the auxiliary verb before the subject rather than putting the auxiliary verb 'do') and negatives(just using 'not' rather than 'do' and 'not'.) The second forms questions and negatives like any ordinary verb.
1) dare I ask? I dare not ask
2) do I dare ask? I don't dare ask
David
a pseudomodal verb, like "have to", "need to", "want to", "be supposed to", "like to", and so on;
I meant "quasimodal" when I wrote "pseudomodal" above.
'need' has modal verb patterns:
need I say more?
You need not go there
In what way are 'have to' 'want to' 'be supposed to' 'like to' quasimodal verbs? They always form their questions and negatives using 'do' and never by changing position with the subject
David
I meant "quasimodal" when I wrote "pseudomodal" above.
'need' has modal verb patterns:
need I say more?
You need not go there
In what way are 'have to' 'want to' 'be supposed to' 'like to' quasimodal verbs? They always form their questions and negatives using 'do' and never by changing position with the subject
David
With respect to "need", we are effectively dealing with three different quantities here, "need" the normal verb, "need to" the quasimodal verb, and "need" the modal verb. "Need" the normal verb is just yet another normal English verb. "Need to" is a quasimodal verb which is bound to the "to" affix (I am not sure if I even want to call such a clitic at this point, as such seems to function like a bound morpheme today) but which is otherwise syntactically and morphologically normal except that it fits the semantic role of a modal verb aside from being more flexible than a modal verb proper. "Need" the modal verb, however, patterns like a true modal verb, including lacking the -"s" affix in the third person singular present indicative and not being modified in turn by other auxiliaries or modals.
>>In what way are 'have to' 'want to' 'be supposed to' 'like to' quasimodal verbs? They always form their questions and negatives using 'do' and never by changing position with the subject<<
You are missing what the term "quasimodal" signifies. What it means is that a verb is morphologically and syntactically normal, but it fits a modal verb-like role (and may even have replaced an actual modal verb in that role, such as "have to" replacing "must"). Furthermore, some quasimodal verbs, such as "have to" and "be supposed to", are not simply their normal counterparts with the affix or clitic "to" attached, as often assimilation of the rest of the verb to said "to" has become a frozen part of the quasimodal verb rather than being merely phonological in nature.
>>In what way are 'have to' 'want to' 'be supposed to' 'like to' quasimodal verbs? They always form their questions and negatives using 'do' and never by changing position with the subject<<
You are missing what the term "quasimodal" signifies. What it means is that a verb is morphologically and syntactically normal, but it fits a modal verb-like role (and may even have replaced an actual modal verb in that role, such as "have to" replacing "must"). Furthermore, some quasimodal verbs, such as "have to" and "be supposed to", are not simply their normal counterparts with the affix or clitic "to" attached, as often assimilation of the rest of the verb to said "to" has become a frozen part of the quasimodal verb rather than being merely phonological in nature.
<"Need" has never been a modal verb. >
I'm only familiar with the full verb and the semi-modal use. It seems Travis feels he found a third use.
I'm only familiar with the full verb and the semi-modal use. It seems Travis feels he found a third use.
"Need" does have a modal usage, even though it is not used all that much in many dialects of English today. Consider the usage of "need not" - it negates like a modal verb (in that "not" or "-n't" follows it without any auxiliary), it does not take auxiliary or modal verbs, and it does not take a "-s" inflection in the third person plural present indicative. For instance, one can say:
"He need not do that."
but one cannot say:
*"He needs not do that."
*"He doesn't need do that."
*"He can't need do that."
This is clearly the patterning of a modal verb, even though primarily the "need not" usage is found in English dialects today.
"He need not do that."
but one cannot say:
*"He needs not do that."
*"He doesn't need do that."
*"He can't need do that."
This is clearly the patterning of a modal verb, even though primarily the "need not" usage is found in English dialects today.
<I have no problem inserting two [t] sounds together in "used to" which makes it clearly distinct from "use to". Why do others have such difficulty? >
The question is why. Why do you feel the need to insert two t sounds?>>
Because that's how "used to" is correctly pronounced.
The question is why. Why do you feel the need to insert two t sounds?>>
Because that's how "used to" is correctly pronounced.
<Because that's how "used to" is correctly pronounced. >
Have you decided that all by yourself, or do you have a professional source which states it in writing?
Have you decided that all by yourself, or do you have a professional source which states it in writing?
There's no such thing as "correct" pronunciation, only standard and non-standard.
<There's no such thing as "correct" pronunciation, only standard and non-standard.>
Isn't there also sub-standard?
Isn't there also sub-standard?
My Spanish friends pronounce "school" as "eschool". Is that standard or non-standard English pronunciation? LOL!
C'mon, Kef.
C'mon, Kef.
<<My Spanish friends pronounce "school" as "eschool". Is that standard or non-standard English pronunciation? LOL!
C'mon, Kef.>>
It's a foreign accent. No native speaker would ever pronounce it like that.
C'mon, Kef.>>
It's a foreign accent. No native speaker would ever pronounce it like that.