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Sorry for confusion, yes I'm talking about glottal replacement, eg saying "bu-er" instead of "butter", it sounds awful, and yes, I am a native speaker (not that old though!)
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What about the sound which we call the "t" or "d" flap used in words like butter ,bottle ,better? Do we not use that sound in these words in standard American?
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>>What about the sound which we call the "t" or "d" flap used in words like butter ,bottle ,better? Do we not use that sound in these words in standard American?<<
Oh, these alveolar flaps are a standard part of North American English (and have been showing recently in Australian English as well), but these are different things from the glottal stops we referred to earlier and show up in different positions. In NAE they show up in positions after vowels or /r/ and before unstressed vowels, except for /t/ before unstressed /@n/ which becomes a glottal stop instead, while glottal stops show up in NAE in the aforementioned case, as preglottalization of postvocalic fortis plosives, and in many dialects for /t/ before a consonant (including across word boundaries) or at the end of an utterance in many dialects.
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Personally, i always thought a glottal stop was when you substitute a slight pause for a T, as in mountain. Leaving a consonant unaspirated at the end of a word (like shrimp or plant) is a different sound (you just don't make that final audible breath).
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