Why didn't the anglo-saxons conquer the whole GB?

Adam   Wednesday, June 08, 2005, 16:55 GMT
"But what's the point of having one British parliament and a simmilar English one?
Wouldn't that make a British parliament useless? "

How would it make a British parliament useless? It would mean that Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales and England all have their own parliaments, but there is still the British parliament that still has more power overall than all the other parliaments. It's exactly the same in the US where each state has its own parliament but they are all still ruled by the Federal Parliament in Washington DC.

I don't see why the Scots should exclude English politicans from having a say in some of their affairs whilst Scottish MP's have a say in ALL of English affairs.


It isn't fair and it isn't democratic.
Adam   Thursday, June 09, 2005, 16:21 GMT
The thing that annoys me most about England not having its own parliament is the issue about top-up fees for university students.

The Scots politcians voted in the Scottish Parliament to NOT have top-up fees in Scotland. Only Scottish politcians were allowed to vote on that issue. Then, this week, Welsh politicians in the Welsh Assembly also voted to NOT have top-up fees in Wales. Again, only Welsh politicians voted on that issue. But, when it was England's turn a year or two ago to decide if it wants top-up fees, guess what happened? Politcians in the British Parliament in Westmonster (which contains English, Scottish, Welsh and Irish politicians) all voted whether or not top-up fees should be introduced to England. Nearly all of the English MP's voted AGAINST introducing top-up fees to England except, for some unfathomable reason, the Scottish politcians voted FOR the introduction of top-up fees in England even though the Scots voted AGAINST the introduction of top-up fees in Scotland. The votes of the English politcians were overturned and top-up fees were introduced into England - thanks to Scottish politcians!

So where's the fairness? English politcians had no say in whether or not top-up fees be introduced into Scotland - only Scottish politcians in the Scottish Parliament did. So why should it be allowed that Scottish politcians have a say in whether or not top-up fees be introduced in England? If England had its own Parliament we wouldn't have top-up fees in England now, because only English politcians would have voted and they would have voted against it.

Why should Scottish politcians vote on issues that only concern England and NOT Scotland when English politcians aren't allowed to vote on issues that only concern Scotland?

Hmmmmm.
Sander   Thursday, June 09, 2005, 16:26 GMT
I bet the only thing you typed was 'Hmmmmm' ...loser
Mathijs   Thursday, June 09, 2005, 20:03 GMT
I have a question ,

Why did the britons cross the Channel to Brittany,France ???
zarafa   Thursday, June 09, 2005, 20:05 GMT
To get to the other side?
Sander   Thursday, June 09, 2005, 20:07 GMT
sounds logical...
andre in south africa   Thursday, June 09, 2005, 20:07 GMT
LOL!!! Very good Zarafa :))
andre in south africa   Thursday, June 09, 2005, 20:08 GMT
Well I have to say Adam does have a point there
Sander   Thursday, June 09, 2005, 20:09 GMT
Adam?
zarafa   Thursday, June 09, 2005, 20:26 GMT
=> LOL!!! Very good Zarafa :))

Well, thanks a bunch, andre, but your enthusiasm leads me to believe that the old "Why did the chicken cross the road" joke never made it to SA!
Sander   Thursday, June 09, 2005, 20:31 GMT
He just has a terrible sense of humour.... ;)
Jaro   Thursday, June 09, 2005, 21:46 GMT
Did at least English universities accept more students as Blair promised?
If you don't like high tuition fees in England Adam, you can still go and study in Scotland, Wales or Europe.
Adam   Friday, June 10, 2005, 08:37 GMT
Can't do that. Because the Scots have said they won't have tuition fees in Scotland - but they WILL have them in Scotland for ENGLISH students.
Adam   Friday, June 10, 2005, 08:40 GMT
The reason why the Ancient Britons crossed the Channel to what is now Britanny is because of the same reason that the Celts moved to what is now Wales and Scotland - because the Anglo-Saxons drove them out.
Adam   Friday, June 10, 2005, 08:41 GMT
" The Celts who migrated to this westernmost outcrop of the French landmass spent much of the Iron Age on the British Isles, introducing innovations like the potter's wheel, the rotary millstone, and the compass. This first influx of Continental culture into Great Britain was greeted with typically mixed feelings, and by the 6th century AD the Saxons had sent the Britons packing southward to the bulbous portion of western France that juts out into the Atlantic and still bears their name. So completely did they dominate their new, Cornwall-like peninsula that in 496, when they allied themselves with Clovis, the king of the Franks, he felt as if he'd just claimed a little bit of England. Nonetheless the Britons remained independent of France until 1532.

Yet the cultural exchange flowed two ways over the Channel. From their days on the British isles the Britons brought a folklore that shares with England both the bittersweet legend of Tristan and Iseult, and the mystical tales of the Cornwall/Cornouaille of King Arthur and Merlin. They brought a language that still renders village names unpronounceable. And with them, too, they brought a way of life that feels deliciously exotic to the Frenchman and -- like the primordial drone of the bagpipes -- comfortably, delightfully, even primally familiar to the Anglo-Saxon."


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