Agree to Disagree

Guest   Tue Aug 26, 2008 6:36 pm GMT
OK. You can read it.


El español es la segunda lengua extranjera que las multinacionales europeas consideran más necesaria a la hora de hacer negocios y abrir nuevos mercados, sólo por detrás del inglés.

El 20% de las grandes empresas ve imprescindible tener empleados que hablen castellano, frente al 29% que necesita personal que domine el inglés.

El 17% considera necesario el chino, el 10% cita el árabe y sólo el 6% se interesa por el francés o el ruso, según los resultados de un estudio elaborado por el Centro de Idiomas de Reino Unido para la Comisión Europea.

http://www.labolsa.com/noticias/20070223183558/economia-laboral-el-espanol-es-la-segunda-lengua-extranjera-mas-demandada-por-las-grandes-empresas-europeas/
Guest   Tue Aug 26, 2008 6:59 pm GMT
Guest   Tue Aug 26, 2008 7:14 pm GMT
still not a single serious reliable source?
Guest   Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:14 pm GMT
You are not very confident...

OK, you have it.

The Figure below (8.2) shows those languages identified by large companies as needing improvement for today’s market, not just for that specific company, but for the company group.
50% of the companies recognised that their use of English needed to be improved, whilst Spanish was the second most popular world language with 30% of the companies identifying it as a key language for improvement.

Language needed by large European companies:

1. English 29%

2. Spanish 20%

3. Chinese 17%

4. Arabic 10%

5. Portuguese 6%

5. Russian 6%

5. French 6%


http://ec.europa.eu/education/policies/lang/doc/elan_final_report_en.pdf
Guest   Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:15 pm GMT
You are not very confident...

OK, you have it.

The Figure below (8.2) shows those languages identified by large companies as needing improvement for today’s market, not just for that specific company, but for the company group.
50% of the companies recognised that their use of English needed to be improved, whilst Spanish was the second most popular world language with 30% of the companies identifying it as a key language for improvement.

Language needed by large European companies:

1. English 29%

2. Spanish 20%

3. Chinese 17%

4. Arabic 10%

5. Portuguese 6%

5. Russian 6%

5. French 6%


http://ec.europa.eu/education/policies/lang/doc/elan_final_report_en.pdf
Guest   Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:17 pm GMT
You are not very confident...

OK, you have it.

The Figure below (8.2) shows those languages identified by large companies as needing improvement for today’s market, not just for that specific company, but for the company group.
50% of the companies recognised that their use of English needed to be improved, whilst Spanish was the second most popular world language with 30% of the companies identifying it as a key language for improvement.

Language needed by large European companies (page 45):

1. English 29%

2. Spanish 20%

3. Chinese 17%

4. Arabic 10%

5. Portuguese 6%

5. Russian 6%

5. French 6%


http://ec.europa.eu/education/policies/lang/doc/elan_final_report_en.pdf
Guest   Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:19 pm GMT
You are not very confident...

OK, you have it.

The Figure below (8.2) shows those languages identified by large companies as needing improvement for today’s market, not just for that specific company, but for the company group.
50% of the companies recognised that their use of English needed to be improved, whilst Spanish was the second most popular world language with 30% of the companies identifying it as a key language for improvement.

Language needed by large European companies (page 45):

1. English 29%

2. Spanish 20%

3. Chinese 17%

4. Arabic 10%

5. Portuguese 6%

5. Russian 6%

5. French 6%


http://ec.europa.eu/education/policies/lang/doc/elan_final_report_en.pdf
Guest   Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:25 pm GMT
You are not very confident...

OK, you have it.

The Figure below (8.2) shows those languages identified by large companies as needing improvement for today’s market, not just for that specific company, but for the company group.
50% of the companies recognised that their use of English needed to be improved, whilst Spanish was the second most popular world language with 30% of the companies identifying it as a key language for improvement.

Language needed by large European companies (page 45):

1. English 29%

2. Spanish 20%

3. Chinese 17%

4. Arabic 10%

5. Portuguese 6%

5. Russian 6%

5. French 6%


http://ec.europa.eu/education/policies/lang/doc/elan_final_report_en.pdf
Guest   Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:31 pm GMT
OK then Language needed by small and medium European companies :

English 26%
German 18%
French 13%
Russian 12%
Spanish 7%
Guest   Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:46 pm GMT
The difference is interesting.

Small and Medium-size companies are more likely to need European languages, with strong demand for German, the second most important, whereas the large companies have a much more strongly articulated need for global languages, such as Spanish, the second most important for them.

SMEs European Companies: English and German.

Large European Companies: English and Spanish.
Guest   Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:07 pm GMT
Regional companies, English and German

Global companies need global languages, English and Spanish
Guest   Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:16 pm GMT
Chinese and Arabic more important that French
Guest   Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:33 pm GMT
Please do not misunderstand the data, and do not confuse actual use of languages in business and the needs for improvement in specific languages to reach new markets.

The link says (p. 44):
"Italian and German do not appear at all in the large company needs"
because big European companies are already present throughout Europe (without forgetting that nearly all of them are German, French or Dutch, and do not need additional competences in their home languages).

On the other hand they need a better command of Spanish and Arabic to develop in the third-world (German and Italian are not in use outside of Europe, hence their zero-ranking).

All in all this survey sounds pretty humiliating to our Hispanic friends.

I am very sorry.

Furthermore (p.44), "There is a possibility that the importance of Spanish here has been slightly skewed by the proximity of Spain to France where the survey was carried out".

But if you're happy I'll be happy too.
:)
Guest   Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:58 pm GMT
I say the same, do not misunderstand the data, please.

It shows clearly the situation. The Small and Medium size companies need English and German, the most powerful REGIONAL LANGUAGES OF EUROPE.

The Global companies, need World languages, like English and Spanish, THE MOST POWERFUL GLOBAL LANGUAGES. After them, Chinese and Arabic are the most powerful.

Oh! sorry! French should fight against Portuguese, because to be the last one is ashamed.

It doesn't matter, if you are happy I'll be happy too.
Guest   Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:41 am GMT
French can be seen in a recent listing of international jobs (7/3/07) distributed by the US State Department:

125 required or preferred French
31 Spanish
25 a UN language (Arabic, Chinese, English, French, Russian, and Spanish), 10 Portuguese
7 Arabic
4 Russian
2 German.

http://www.fll.vt.edu/French/whyfrench.html


One example of the importance of French can be seen in a recent listing of international jobs (4/8/97) distributed by the US State Department:

47 required or preferred French
29 Spanish
10 Russian
3 German.
http://www.intstudy.com/articles/practicalfrench.htm
http://www.intstudy.com/articles/practicalfrench.htm

IN THIS TWO SET OF DATA, THE PREFERENCE FOR FRENCH INCREASED BU 50% WHILE THAT OF SPANISH BY LESS THAN 1% FROM 4/8/97 TO 7/3/07