The latest figures for 2006 by the World Bank show that Spain's GDP has passed 1 trillion dollars.
Spanish is not so important as latin-americans praise!
il est vrai qu'aujourd'hui l'Amerique hispanique est plus populaire dans le monde que l'Espagne (par le biais des USA principalement). Ainsi beaucoup de monde a tendence a imaginer l'Espagne comme étant une Colombie d'Europe... Ce qui est loin d'Etre le cas. Bien que j'admire profondement LES cultureS d'Amerique hispanique, il est vrai que la plupart de ces pays sont aujourd'hui des pays a faible revenu, ce qui n'est bien sur pas le cas de l'Espagne.
To tell the truth straight, few people can evaluate the languages justly without any prejudice, firstly, if someone inconsciently or meaningly debases your beloved mother tongue, you will necessarily blow up and fight against the issue, and you will also stand out to dispute for the foreign languages you're crazy about, if someone say something negative about them, but objectively speaking, there're really some distinction exists among these few important languages, and due to very different positions and passion, people tend to represent their favourite languages subjectively as the most beautiful and useful ones, and aggrandize one argument while belittling another one, it's not an exaggeration to say, when you just estimate something only based on your narrow opinion, you should switch your standpoint from yours to others' and try to make sense of what others want to give expression to. Sometimes, by a little transpositive thinking, maybe you will suddenly find out you're not all right and others are not completely wrong, either. It's only my opinion.
Perhaps those who're enthusiastically stuck on Spanish have no fault at all, however you really shouldn't say anything to deny irresponsiblely the great importance of German, French, and Italian within Europe, Asia, Oceania and Africa, even in USA and Latin-America. After all, in European Union, they're all more important than Spain. And I still think that the number of population cannot be the exclusive factor to judge languages.
If anyone think you're wasting time with me, then you can keep silence!
Perhaps those who're enthusiastically stuck on Spanish have no fault at all, however you really shouldn't say anything to deny irresponsiblely the great importance of German, French, and Italian within Europe, Asia, Oceania and Africa, even in USA and Latin-America. After all, in European Union, they're all more important than Spain. And I still think that the number of population cannot be the exclusive factor to judge languages.
If anyone think you're wasting time with me, then you can keep silence!
Historybuff wrote:
Quote:
>>The Portuguese and the Spanish were both remarakble peoples in some ways as navigators,explorers and conquerors<<
>Hardly. The consensus among a number of respected historians is that European >exploration had no deliberate desing instead being purely accidental and all about being at >the right place at the right time. […] There was nothing "remarkable" about it when you >examine it carefully. If one is academically and intellectually honest about their >"remarkable exploration" can be put down mostly to luck.
Historybuff, if you want to examine it carefully ( in the case of the Portuguese as they are being mentioned) and be “academically and intellectually honest” you should try to read the book of Rainer Daehnhardt, an expert in Portuguese History and weaponry, “Homens, Espadas e Tomates”( “ Men, Swords, and Balls”).
http://www.arscives.com/bladesign/history.htm#1
http://www.fnac.pt/produto.aspx?catalogo=livros&categoria=historiaPortugal&produto=9789728408534
“their "remarkable exploration" can be put down mostly to luck.” I guess some can call it luck others call it bravery.
Quote:
>>The Portuguese and the Spanish were both remarakble peoples in some ways as navigators,explorers and conquerors<<
>Hardly. The consensus among a number of respected historians is that European >exploration had no deliberate desing instead being purely accidental and all about being at >the right place at the right time. […] There was nothing "remarkable" about it when you >examine it carefully. If one is academically and intellectually honest about their >"remarkable exploration" can be put down mostly to luck.
Historybuff, if you want to examine it carefully ( in the case of the Portuguese as they are being mentioned) and be “academically and intellectually honest” you should try to read the book of Rainer Daehnhardt, an expert in Portuguese History and weaponry, “Homens, Espadas e Tomates”( “ Men, Swords, and Balls”).
http://www.arscives.com/bladesign/history.htm#1
http://www.fnac.pt/produto.aspx?catalogo=livros&categoria=historiaPortugal&produto=9789728408534
“their "remarkable exploration" can be put down mostly to luck.” I guess some can call it luck others call it bravery.
Guy wrote:
>>Why mention Brazil in relation to how powerful Spanish is? Brazilians speak Portuguese...<<
>It is predicted by scholars that portuguese will eventually make way for spanish in brasil in >the not too distant future.
>http://spanish.about.com/b/a/002303.htm
>Quote:
>No, the language of Brazil is Portuguese, or at least a variation of it. But apparently >Brazilians are increasingly learning Spanish as a second language.
Nostradamus made good predictions but I never read that one:o) .
Brazilians have been learning English as a second language for many years and now Spanish will be one more language to learn. Some people think that just because you learn another language you will stop speaking your own language.
Brazilian is a variation of Portuguese as much as Mexican or Argentinean is a variation of Spanish, or American is a variation of English.
Portuguese is also taught in the Countries of Mercosul and it is in high demand.
http://www.pagina12.com.ar/diario/sociedad/3-33750-2004-04-06.html
http://www.clarin.com/diario/2005/04/17/sociedad/s-959233.htm
http://www.educared.org.ar/NotaCompleta.asp?ID=997
>>Why mention Brazil in relation to how powerful Spanish is? Brazilians speak Portuguese...<<
>It is predicted by scholars that portuguese will eventually make way for spanish in brasil in >the not too distant future.
>http://spanish.about.com/b/a/002303.htm
>Quote:
>No, the language of Brazil is Portuguese, or at least a variation of it. But apparently >Brazilians are increasingly learning Spanish as a second language.
Nostradamus made good predictions but I never read that one:o) .
Brazilians have been learning English as a second language for many years and now Spanish will be one more language to learn. Some people think that just because you learn another language you will stop speaking your own language.
Brazilian is a variation of Portuguese as much as Mexican or Argentinean is a variation of Spanish, or American is a variation of English.
Portuguese is also taught in the Countries of Mercosul and it is in high demand.
http://www.pagina12.com.ar/diario/sociedad/3-33750-2004-04-06.html
http://www.clarin.com/diario/2005/04/17/sociedad/s-959233.htm
http://www.educared.org.ar/NotaCompleta.asp?ID=997
Portuguese is the official language but the spoken language is VERY Brazilian. Brazilians never use the official language orally, just like in Switzerland, never uses standard German. In Brazil and in Switzerland official languages are hated, local dialects are used, even in public speech.
> Brazilian is a variation of Portuguese as
> much as Mexican or Argentinean
> is a variation of Spanish, or American
> is a variation of English.
American ?! What language is that ????
> much as Mexican or Argentinean
> is a variation of Spanish, or American
> is a variation of English.
American ?! What language is that ????
Well I don't know much about "fashion", but Sao Paulo is also an important city... Just like Milan and Paris in Europe, or probably more because Sao Paulo has no rivals in Latin America. Also, many famous designers and people related to the fashion industry are Latin American like Carolina Herrera (Venezuelan), Oscar de la Renta (Dominican), Narciso Rodriguez (Cuban-American) and Gisele Bundchen (Brazilian).
1, US: 11.6675
2, Japan: 4.6234
3, Germany: 2.7144
4, UK: 2.1409
5, France: 2.0026
6, Italy: 1.6723
7, China: 1.6493
8, Spain: 0.9914
Of all the countries in the list, SPAIN IS CONSIDERABLY LESS POPULATED... IT'S REALLY SURPRISING IT'S ON THE LIST WITH ONLY 44,000,000 INHABITANTS...
2, Japan: 4.6234
3, Germany: 2.7144
4, UK: 2.1409
5, France: 2.0026
6, Italy: 1.6723
7, China: 1.6493
8, Spain: 0.9914
Of all the countries in the list, SPAIN IS CONSIDERABLY LESS POPULATED... IT'S REALLY SURPRISING IT'S ON THE LIST WITH ONLY 44,000,000 INHABITANTS...
Hey!!! wait wait!!!
What the Heck do fashion, size of cities, modern trains, etc, etc, and all those silly arguments have to do to "find out" which language is more "important" ?????
All this is insane, there is no such "most important language".
Economics, world trade would you say ?
Does Japan need to teach the whole world its language to sell all its products and
to be a great seller ?
Does China or Germany or Brazil or Mexico ?
What the Heck do fashion, size of cities, modern trains, etc, etc, and all those silly arguments have to do to "find out" which language is more "important" ?????
All this is insane, there is no such "most important language".
Economics, world trade would you say ?
Does Japan need to teach the whole world its language to sell all its products and
to be a great seller ?
Does China or Germany or Brazil or Mexico ?
>>>Incidentally, right now Mr. Fujimori is living in exile in Japan.<<<
No he's not.... He's in custody in "La Escuela de Gendarmería de Santiago" (Chile) after he got arrested in that country and hopefully he'll get extraditated to Peru in the next few months.
No he's not.... He's in custody in "La Escuela de Gendarmería de Santiago" (Chile) after he got arrested in that country and hopefully he'll get extraditated to Peru in the next few months.
>>>Does Japan need to teach the whole world its language to sell all its products and
to be a great seller ?
Does China or Germany or Brazil or Mexico ?<<<
No, but the instructions are always written in English as if we all spoke English...
to be a great seller ?
Does China or Germany or Brazil or Mexico ?<<<
No, but the instructions are always written in English as if we all spoke English...