Brazilians might as well just speak Spanish...

TRUTH   Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:43 pm GMT
Brazilains speak a version of Portuguese which is very unlike the Portuguese spoke in Portugal in both vocabulary and pronounciation. If you hear an example of Brazilain Portuguese, in its innotation and even vocabulary it sounds very Spanish-y.

Brazilians can't really understand or pronounce real Portuguese from Portugal so have been moving closer and closer to a very Spanified version of Portuguese which in my opinion may as well be a dialect of Spanish.

Brazilians give in, you do not speak Portuguese and you do not even like Portugal, so stop kidding yourselfs and just make the final push and start speaking Spanish.
therealityisthat...   Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:52 pm GMT
-90% of brazilians lives on coast
-brazils most populated regions(northeast and southeast) dont make frontier with hispanic countries
-only brazil's 3rd region make frontier with argentina,uruguay and uruguay,this region has half of population of northeast and 1/3 of population of southeast
-in brazil,those who lives far from coast are normally poor and illiterate(few exceptions são paulo, brasilia... that hasnt contact with hispanics)
-portugal receives 3 million spaniards(not added up south americans) through tourism, brazils total(all countries) is 5 millions
-portugal is narrow,furthest point of portugal is not very far from spain
-portugal belongs to eu so spaniards can enter in potugal
-portugal's education owns brazilian education,portugal population is 20 times less and have more international prizes,in nobel and international universities
-12 million people are learning spanish.sure? because only 42 thousands are learning in public schools in são paulo(11 million people,most important south american city)
-portugal is way more capitalist and globalized than brazil,portuguese people knows everything about the world,most people on brazils north-northeast-center cant even find his own country or state in a map
-despite portugal accents be "less close than spanish",eur. portuguese have more 'spanish' features than braz.port.,like more trilled r's,is less nasal and have less closed vowels(^)
-portugal cousin always was spain,nevertheless,spaniards can understand few eur.portuguese.i dont think spaniards can ear one word of "wild" brz. portuguese,like that spoke far from south
-uruguayan and argentinean accents are the closest to brazilian in spanish world,its said that uruguayan vowels features nasalization in some areas(uruguay already was one brazilian state)

-brazilian Main export/import partners(2nd place--argentina 8,9%,argentina 7,7%)
-portuguese Main export/import partners(1st place-spain 25,6%,spain 28,9%),more than 1/4 thats a big one
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Brazil
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Portugal
anon   Sat Mar 27, 2010 6:02 pm GMT
Truth:

Brazilians speak a much more archaic form of the language, which may sound like spanish only because the two languages are from the same family. Contemporary portuguese from Portugal (not the original by the way), is the dialect which has changed the most in recent history, and sounds very different from brazilian portuguese, because it is the least conservative.
kalis   Sat Mar 27, 2010 6:06 pm GMT
"Brazilians might as well just speak Spanish..."

No... Why?
Because brazilians hates spanish culture and idiom.
Brazilian culture is very different than hispanic culture.
90% of brazilians dont know that a idiom called spanish exists and dont give a fu*k to hispanics.

Plain and simple.
kalis   Sat Mar 27, 2010 6:07 pm GMT
is very different from the Hispanic culture
LadyLuxembourg   Sat Mar 27, 2010 6:14 pm GMT
Brazil is the most useless country for the global world.
It is so overestimated, 3rd word country which has not given ANYTHING to the modern civilization. No great writers, no great scientists, no Nobel prizes...Brazil is self sufficient, it does not want to interact with modern word, so it be, now it behaves like a cranky child, getting into that BRIC shit... Brazil Russia India and China, children of the 3rd world unite hahaha.

If you landed an atomic bomb on Brazil, no one would ever know, because no news from Brazil reach Europe or US, Brazil is so unheard of, we receive more news from Malta than from Brazil.
Brazilian   Sat Mar 27, 2010 6:20 pm GMT
"no news from Brazil reach Europe or US, Brazil is so unheard of, we receive more news from Malta than from Brazil"

Excuse me,but this was an offense? :)
English   Sat Mar 27, 2010 7:15 pm GMT
Kelis said:

<<Because brazilians hates spanish culture and idiom.>>

-Because Brazilians hate the spanish culture and language.

note: the word 'idiom' in English most often denotes a phrase or expression.

<<Brazilian culture is very different than hispanic culture.>>

-Brazilian culture is very different from hispanic culture.

<<90% of brazilians dont know that a idiom called spanish exists and dont give a fu*k to hispanics.>>

- 90% of brazilians don't know that the language called Spanish exists and don't give a fuck about hispanics.
Florbella Espanca   Sat Mar 27, 2010 8:12 pm GMT
lolling Joao   Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:18 pm GMT
«Brazilains speak a version of Portuguese which is very unlike the Portuguese spoke in Portugal in both vocabulary and pronounciation. If you hear an example of Brazilain Portuguese, in its innotation and even vocabulary it sounds very Spanish-y.

Brazilians can't really understand or pronounce real Portuguese from Portugal so have been moving closer and closer to a very Spanified version of Portuguese which in my opinion may as well be a dialect of Spanish.

Brazilians give in, you do not speak Portuguese and you do not even like Portugal, so stop kidding yourselfs and just make the final push and start speaking Spanish. »


This is called the Goebbels Maxim: repeating a lie countless times until people start believing on it.
lolling Joao   Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:20 pm GMT
«Excuse me,but this was an offense? :) »

It was a frustratedc attempt.
Penetra   Sun Mar 28, 2010 12:44 pm GMT
Here we go again, feeding the trolls:

Though I realize the OP was just trying to have a cheap
laugh, stirring up the feelings of prickly Brazilians
who don't want to be confused with "those other"
Latin-americans, hos contention that we don't speak
Portuguese is just wrong. We speak Portuguese,
just like the Quebecois speak French.

<<in brazil,those who lives far from coast are normally poor and illiterate(few exceptions são paulo, brasilia>>

This is so full of errors it isn't even funny:
. São Paulo is NOT far from the coast;
. Some of the places with the highest HDI
in Brazil are far from the coast;
. Stark poverty is just as common in Rio as
it is inland;
. Brasília is a dump anyway;
Kendra   Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:55 pm GMT
No place in Brazil has HDI by european standards (0.9 or more)
and in rare places where HDI is around 0.8 it's because rich parts of the city have 0.999 and poor parts have 0.5999.
In places like Brazil standard deviation means more than the average number.
Penetra   Mon Mar 29, 2010 12:55 am GMT
<< No place in Brazil has HDI by european standards (0.9 or more) >>

Did I ever write otherwise?
Cnaeus McPhaeus   Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:26 am GMT
<<. Brasília is a dump anyway; >>

Sort of like Washington D.C.?