Which is the second most important language?

Guest   Sat May 05, 2007 6:07 pm GMT
<<Nobody likes French!>>

Who likes English? seriously...

Learn english is compulsory, the students don't do that with pleasures.
Gringo   Sat May 05, 2007 6:34 pm GMT
<<<<Nobody likes French!>>

Who likes English? seriously...

Learn english is compulsory, the students don't do that with pleasures>>

Who like English?
George Bush, Tony Blair, and Elizabeth II.
Others?
Chinese don't like English, because the United States are their most important competitor (and ennemy, don't forgot they're always Communists).
The Indians annoy the British since the colonial period, India which was the most powerful nation of the world was vandalized by English men.
The Europeans?
German, Italian, French and Spanish peoples laugh at English, especially since the war in Iraq...
The British?
They are going to transfer their Tony Blair, because they are all set against the Irak war, their honor and their arrogance " so British " is falling.
The Russians?
They were never very anglophilic...
The Muslims?
No comments...
The Africans?
They don't know that the United States exist!

So, nobody likes French?
English too.
Spaniard   Sat May 05, 2007 6:44 pm GMT
"India which was the most powerful nation of the world was vandalized by English men."

Darn!, I missed class that day!!!

One thing is sure 99% in this planet wouldn't miss Bush if a meteor would drop in the middle of his head. A sure prove that God doesn't exist is that this is not going to happen.
Franco   Sat May 05, 2007 10:36 pm GMT
THEY KEEP FUCKING GOING FOR NO FUCING REASON!
Guest   Sun May 06, 2007 2:14 am GMT
In France, the most widely spoken languages are English and German. Italian is also widely spoken. so there's no truth that Spanish is spoken by so many French.

In Sweden, English is compulsory in primary schools while German and French are compulsory only in secondary schools. Spanish is studied only in foreign language schools. The 163,000 Spanish speakers that Sam is pointing out here are actually either Hispanic expatriates or those who study it in a foreign language schools.

In the UK, French is compulsory in primary schools up to higher education. In the secondary schools, one may choose either German, Italian, Russian, Chines, or Spanish. The number of those who study Italians rose considerably, in fact most of them switched from Spanish to Italian.

In Spain, around 15% percent of the 40 million population(6 million) there speak French because it is also required in secondary schools.

In Germany, English and French are compulsory in all schools while Spanish is just optional in college and universities. If you talk to German in Spanish, they would answer back in Italian since they're more familiar with it.

In Romania 88% of the schoolchildren study French. The most widely spoken foreign languages are French, English, Italian, German, Hungarian in that order. The 20% percent increase of those who study Spanish is still petty. Let's say that the number is just less than 100,000 out of 25 million Romanians. It's so few actually and there's nothing for Sam to brag about.

The 100,000 in Senegal and 235.000 in Cote d'Ivoire who speaks or study were actually English speakers. I wonder where did Sam got this data. Englsih is far more widely spoken in these countries than Spanish for practical reasons.

Lastly, In Brazil and the Spanish speaking countries in Latin America except Mexico, French is a require subject in seconday schools.
A-S   Sun May 06, 2007 10:30 am GMT
<<In France, the most widely spoken languages are English and German. Italian is also widely spoken. so there's no truth that Spanish is spoken by so many French. >>

En France, les langues les plus parlées sont: l'anglais, l'allemand, mais aussi dans l'ordre l'arabe, le portugais, l'italien et l'Espagnol (sans compter les langues régionales comme: alsacien (germanique), basque (isolat), breton (celtique), catalan (roman), corse (roman), flamand (germanique), francique (germanique, et les 200 "dialectes" Oc & Oïl (romans) et les langues d'outre-mer:

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Langues_r%C3%A9gionales_de_France )

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In France, the most widely spoken languages are English, German but also Arabic, Portuguese, Italian and Spanish (without counting the "regional languages such as: Alsacian (germanic), Basque (isolate), Breton (celtic), Catalan (romanic), Corsican (romanic), Flamish (germanic), Franconian (germanic), and 200 Oc & Oïl "patois" languages (romanics), and overseas areas: Amerindian languages in French Guiana, Creole languages in French West Indies and Réunion, English in Saint Martin, 35 Melanesian languages in New Caledonia, Polynesian languages in New Caledonia, Wallis & Futuna and French Polynesia (e.g., Tahitian)
shiMaore and shiBushi in Mayotte :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_France )

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In France, the students choose:

1. English (97%) stable

2. Spanish (40%) growing

3. German (16%) growing (the "sections européennes" classes)

4. Italian (6%) declined now stable

5. Arabic (?%) maybe growing

Also, English isn't compulsory, in my city the French schoolchildren choose firstly Spanish (I'm from Hendaye, city border with Spain).


L'espagnol est facile à apprendre pour un français, le vocabulaire est quasi similaire, la grammaire et les temps verbaux fonctionnent de la même façon...
Après, les 2 langues issues du Latin ont été influencées par des cultures et peuples différents.
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Español es fácil de aprender para los franceses, el vocabulario es casi similar, la gramática y los tiempos verbales funcionan del mismo modo...
Después, las 2 lenguas nacidas del latín han sido influidas por culturas y pueblos diferentes.
Guest   Sun May 06, 2007 10:33 am GMT
Regional languages and dialects in France are dying.

In French Guiana, New Caledonia, and Tahiti, French is the native language of over 60% of the population.
Guest   Sun May 06, 2007 11:03 am GMT
<<Regional languages and dialects in France are dying.

In French Guiana, New Caledonia, and Tahiti, French is the native language of over 60% of the population. >>

Vite dit, je parle une langue régionale: l'Euskara ou Euskera (selon que tu est du côté français ou espagnol) plus communément appelé le Basque, pourtant je suis jeune, comme quoi il n'y a pas que les vieux qui parle des langues que t'appelles "mortes".

Il y a des écoles primaires et maternelles comme les Calandreta (Occitan), Ikastola/Seaska (Basque), Diwan (Breton), Bressola (Catalan), ABCM Zweisprachigkeit (Alsacien) etc...
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Fast said, I speak one regional language: Euskara or Euskera (if you're from french or Spanish side) more collectively called the Basque, nevertheless I'm young, as what the old men aren't the only ones to speak their ancestral tongues.

There are private elementary and maternal schools only in regional language with the "immersion" system (They don't speak one word of French during the classes or the playtime) as Calandreta ( Occitan), Ikastola / Seaska (Basque), Diwan ( Breton), Bressola ( Catalan), ABCM Zweisprachigkeit ( Alsatian) etc.... Without counting the public french/regional languages schools bilinguals.

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Orduan zer? Korsikara, Okzitaniera edo Kanaka hilak? Ez oino.
A-S   Sun May 06, 2007 11:04 am GMT
The Guest was me.
Guest   Sun May 06, 2007 11:19 am GMT
Nobody is interested about the basque language and culture.
A-S   Sun May 06, 2007 12:41 pm GMT
Arrosako zolan kantu zirimolan
nahiz eta telebistan ez gaituzten modan,
euskararen garra, lokarri azkarra,
gau ilun honetako gure artizarra
zazpiehun langilez, sutsu ta ekilez
oraina ta geroa ez ditaizke berez,
kontzertu honen bidez, musika eztiez,
Euskal izen ta izana, betikotz bat bitez !

Koka ta hanburgesa, euskaldun baldresa
gustua galtzea ere zer dugun errexa !
kendu nahi digute, bihotz ta bertute,
izaki klonikoak egin nahi gaituzte
jo dezagun bada, goraki aldaba
multinazional hoien herria ez gara,
bretoi ta kortzikar, kanak ta okzitanda
nor bedera izateko har dezagu indar !

Munduko herrien ta irrati libreen
bilgune goxoa guk dugu urtero hemen
uhainen ildoan, asmoak geroan
elkarren ezagutza daukagu gogoan,
munduko erronkak, herrien borrokak
bildu gara hausteko zapalkuntzen sokak,
dantza ta irria, kantuz ilargia.


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Guest   Mon May 07, 2007 4:49 pm GMT
"Le français comme langue maternelle est peu parlée: hormis en France, en Belgique wallonne, en Suisse romande, au Québec et dans quelques régions isolées du Canada anglais.

En Amérique, le français se cantonne dans deux États, l'un, petit et pauvre, Haïti; l'autre, le Québec, riche mais sous-peuplé et atteint de décroissance démographique. En fait, la France demeure l'unique pôle solide de la francophonie. C'est une faiblesse dans la mesure où tout repose sur la puissance et la richesse de ce seul pays.

La perte de prestige de la France entraînerait nécessairement le déclin du français comme langue internationale"


French people are right. That´s from a Francophone report. They say that French is important, but it has some problems. It is a weak language because it is spoken almost only in France. When France will be less important, French too.
NTSL   Tue May 08, 2007 2:53 am GMT
<< French people are right. That´s from a Francophone report. They say that French is important, but it has some problems. It is a weak language because it is spoken almost only in France. When France will be less important, French too. >>

The French people never said that Sam, it was only a product of your imagination. Or maybe, it was written in a French newspaper editorial anf that was his opinion and he doesn't represent the entire French speaking people.

Actually Spnish is weak because it is in the process of disintegrating into numerous neo-hispanique languages just like what happened to Latin.
Guest   Tue May 08, 2007 3:10 am GMT
hey Gringo, are you Brazilian? I'm so glad that you brought out your opinion that French is more important than Spanish.
Guest   Tue May 08, 2007 11:16 am GMT
<< Fast said, I speak one regional language: Euskara or Euskera (if you're from french or Spanish side) more collectively called the Basque, nevertheless I'm young, as what the old men aren't the only ones to speak their ancestral tongues. >>

Sure, that's why Basque descendants in Saint Pierre et Miquelon speak French natively just like the Breton descendants there. Haven't you known that inhabitants of those islands are overwhelmingly Basque and Breton descendants?

Basque will never be a second world language, A-S! It's as ugly as you.