Future of Spanish in the United States/Some Clarifications

furrykef   Wed May 16, 2007 3:32 am GMT
> Anyways, you could speak ten languages and you still wouldn't be as classy as I am!

Flaunting your alleged classiness isn't classy.
The Classy American   Wed May 16, 2007 4:12 am GMT
<<Flaunting your alleged classiness isn't classy.>>

In case you and the others haven't picked up on it yet, it's a joke. I use the name "The Classy American" to rile up the locals, and it's worked like a charm. Of course it's going look silly for me to use such a name while expressing the truth that is the inferior nature of the Spanish language in the United States.
Uncle Sam   Wed May 16, 2007 6:02 pm GMT
Hey Spics, we speak English here! Stay on topic!
Guest   Wed May 16, 2007 7:18 pm GMT
Uncle Sam (Classy American). If you are a teenager, I have to forgive you but if you're an adult, you're pathetic and you need to get a life. Your biased points of view are moot and they lack substance. It's pointless to argue with you, it's a waste of time and the more you write your biased paragraphs, the more your show your education and intelligence. Te guste o no, el español se convertirá en una fuerza y lo más divertido es que esos cambios se llevarán a cabo justo en territorio estadounidense. ¿Que acaso no fue es castellano la primer lengua oficial hablada en sl suroeste de tu país?
Guest   Thu May 17, 2007 4:49 am GMT
<<Uh...no. Global warming aggrevates the problem, however it didn't cause that particular hurricane. >>

Nope! a rise of temperature in the Mexico gulf revived Katrina when it was losing its strength. It seems you all believe the crap from the beast that you have as president.

<<No "gringos" go to Mexico for healthcare, except for maybe the very few who can't afford it here. >>

That's not true. In Latin America there is a growing and successful "medical tourism" and the patients are not "few" but thousands. Now that's a lucrative business. See how expensive those services are that you can pay the trip, take a vacation and receive the treatment and all will be way cheaper than do it in the U.S.

<<However, on the contrary, there are many cases where rich people from other countries come to the United States to have their important surgeries because our doctors and facilities are the best on the planet. >>

You have touched the point: only "rich people" could afford any health service in the U.S. which are abusive. Of course there are medical procedures very advanced in the U.S. but even in countries like Cuba there are others much advanced than yours or anybody else.

<<we have the best hospitals and colleges/universities in the world>>

Don't tell me, the shootings are free!

<<This is exact why no one likes Mexicans, because they have this attitude. But what you don't realize is that they do the backbreaking labor that no one else will do, and do it for far less pay. Who are the stupid ones?>>

They would be stupid if they spend that money in such expensive country, instead, they send thousands of millions of dollars to their countries, got it ?
Guest   Thu May 17, 2007 5:08 am GMT
"Don't tell me, the shootings are free!"

That shooter was a Korean, so they are the ones you should blame.
George Washington   Thu May 17, 2007 5:09 am GMT
<<Nope! a rise of temperature in the Mexico gulf revived Katrina when it was losing its strength. It seems you all believe the crap from the beast that you have as president.>>

No, actually, I must state again that I hate Bush, I didn't vote for him once, and I don't believe a word that comes out of his mouth. That being said, you can't say that there is a direct link between the hurricane and our environmental policies!

<<That's not true. In Latin America there is a growing and successful "medical tourism" and the patients are not "few" but thousands. Now that's a lucrative business. See how expensive those services are that you can pay the trip, take a vacation and receive the treatment and all will be way cheaper than do it in the U.S.>>

And you think it's poor Americans who go to other countries for care? Not true at all. Besides, the care they receive there is still inferior to what they receive here.

<<You have touched the point: only "rich people" could afford any health service in the U.S. which are abusive. Of course there are medical procedures very advanced in the U.S. but even in countries like Cuba there are others much advanced than yours or anybody else.>>

You pay for what you get, and nothing in this world is free. We have the best hospitals in the world, and most people can afford healthcare. Rich people from other countries come to the United States because they know we have the best care. And it's the most advanced, even moreso than Cuba or anywhere else.

<<Don't tell me, the shootings are free!>>

Better than train bombings, I suppose!

<<They would be stupid if they spend that money in such expensive country, instead, they send thousands of millions of dollars to their countries, got it ?>>

Uh, okay, what's your point?
Guest   Thu May 17, 2007 12:27 pm GMT
Wrong on all counts. It's not worth our time to learn everyone else's useless language as we run the world.

I repeat as below, nothing new, usual excuses. Shining example of mental laziness, as told before.
Excuses to justify the difficulty of doing something different from make money.
“Useless” languages are what we call “CULTURE”, an unknown concept to your country. Every thing has not a direct reward in money or has not a material benefit is “useless”. That’s a very “classy” and acculturized way of thinking and everyone can see the results in your schools. That’s why when an american speaks of something different from making money people can’t help smiling.
Foreign people who speak English do you a favour, not the contrary. Remember that. Furthermore they show much culture than you and help your brain not to strive too much.
The historical reasons English become pretty wide spoken are recent and purely fortuitous, so what do you want to prove?
Run the world? Who? You? That’s a news. You wish, it has always been your aim, making crmes to attain it.
Thinking you “run the world”, talking about other people as “second class” etc. show you as something like a megalomaniac lunatic and reveal the very essence of your very low absurd US “culture”, the same one you overprised. I think it’s quite impossible for an american not to get cocky and seem a presuptuous, bombastic, arrogant person (without any valid reason). It reveals all the "freedom", "equality" and "democracy" of this country. Let's try to understand once for all: you are so far to be perfect.
Do you want to know what people see continuously about US? Paris Hilton…WHAT A WONDERFUL MODEL! Why don’t you export something better?


No I mean Hispanic, as the problem is not just limited to Mexicans

You are completely right, the worst problem are not Mexicans, but US americans like you (and your president).
Before talking about Mexicans think about what your multinational corporations do in Mexico and other countries, then think over the real meaning of the word “criminal” and “illegal”.


And a great many of our actions around the world help people.

Yes you help people… to die.
You are such pious philanthropists that you are sooooo loved EVERYWHERE in the world. This is the proof.
You always helped sooo much people! Maybe this is the reason why you are so widly belowed.
Ask in Iraq or Afghanistan how much they love you just for a very present example.
The most atrocious thing is that the majority of you really think these craps, they don’t know ANYTHING of the world outside US and they believe in all these nationalist craps. I have to admit your government made such a good brainwashing on you.


I doubt it. And your terms would undoubtedly be hilarious to hear.

No I’m sure, and they are not the only ones, get over it.
Which are my hilarious terms? I would be very pleased if my terms would be “hilarious”. You know, much better sound “hilarious” than idiot, blind nationalist, racist etc…Don’t you think?


Look, a lot of what we do is wrong, I'll be the first to admit that. But a lot of what we have achieved, we've done on our own.

MY GOD!! Fionally a true sentence from your mouth. I cannot believe.
That your problem: you do not want to admit you did a lot of wrong things (just to use an euphemism). If you admit it, I’m sure people change their approach toards you.
When I was a child I was a fan of US, but when a person study its history is a burning disappointment. Especially the 20th century one, an endless list of dreadful gestures.


I understand what you're saying for the most part, but your English still isnt very good.

So what? Have I to cry? Show us your astonishing linguistic talents
Language deficiencies can be recovered, brain deficiencies not.


I speak several languages, but again, we're on an English-speaking forum and I want everyone to see how much of an idiot you are.

Several languages…yes, we all believe that! Maybe just to order at the restaurant.
To tell the truth it’s clear everyone has understood how much you are an idiot so far. So, if you want to go on and remove any doubts….
This is not an English speaking forum and it would be a great occasion to show all your culture, but the fear is too big I think.


Anyways, you could speak ten languages and you still wouldn't be as classy as I am!

If you tink so….
Can I suggest for your next answer “my dad is richer than yours?”, you forgot it.


You should work on your English, as it is the world's international language.

No, I think it’s more than enough thank you, unfortunately you have to work on so many other things than a language.


And I can insult you in obscure languages and you'll never know the difference, as well. What point would it prove?

Maybe that you are able only to insult?


If you're such a tough guy, why don't you tell us all where you're from so we can have a good laugh?

I’m not tough, is it enough to say some truth to be “tough”? I don’t know why you assume I’m a “guy”, I can be a woman too, or in America women can’t talk about anything than cosmetics?
No I am not going to say anything, because even if I say my country you even don’t know where it is! Geography is not the best ability of US Americans. Furthermore the speech would become a bunch of inexistent insulting stereotypes that is what you want and what Americans do better.
Without vomiting stereotypes you are not able to talk. It is enough to see movies, please don’t deny this too.
Yes, THAT’S THE POINT! a good laugh to other countries: that is what you are always good to do. Unfortunately you seem not able to see how many laugh at you.
Anyway we are having a good laugh at you, isn’t enough? Don’t you see NOBODY answer you? Because everybody ignore your foolish way of thinking even your country fellows, the intelligent ones. Now I get bored, you became so trite in what you are saying and I’m not going to answer again.
I only wanted to open your eyes on some issues, but you go on thinking these are insults. Stay as you are and good luck for the next 30 years.
America The Beautiful   Thu May 17, 2007 6:33 pm GMT
<<I repeat as below, nothing new, usual excuses. Shining example of mental laziness, as told before.
Excuses to justify the difficulty of doing something different from make money.>>

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.

<<“Useless” languages are what we call “CULTURE”, an unknown concept to your country. Every thing has not a direct reward in money or has not a material benefit is “useless”. That’s a very “classy” and acculturized way of thinking and everyone can see the results in your schools. That’s why when an american speaks of something different from making money people can’t help smiling.>>

We have our culture just like you have yours. Neither one is objectively better. That's an opinion!

<<Foreign people who speak English do you a favour, not the contrary. Remember that. Furthermore they show much culture than you and help your brain not to strive too much.
The historical reasons English become pretty wide spoken are recent and purely fortuitous, so what do you want to prove?>>

People speak English because it's the language spoken by two of the most powerful countries in history, the British Empire and the United States of America.

<<Run the world? Who? You? That’s a news. You wish, it has always been your aim, making crmes to attain it.
Thinking you “run the world”, talking about other people as “second class” etc. show you as something like a megalomaniac lunatic and reveal the very essence of your very low absurd US “culture”, the same one you overprised. I think it’s quite impossible for an american not to get cocky and seem a presuptuous, bombastic, arrogant person (without any valid reason). It reveals all the "freedom", "equality" and "democracy" of this country. Let's try to understand once for all: you are so far to be perfect.
Do you want to know what people see continuously about US? Paris Hilton…WHAT A WONDERFUL MODEL! Why don’t you export something better?>>

Yes, we run the world, and look at all of the countries that have FREELY chosen to adopt our culture. Paris Hilton is a piece of crap, most of us hate her anyways.

<<You are completely right, the worst problem are not Mexicans, but US americans like you (and your president).
Before talking about Mexicans think about what your multinational corporations do in Mexico and other countries, then think over the real meaning of the word “criminal” and “illegal”.>>

Oh please more of your socialist nonsense. Here in the United States we have laws. People who enter the country illegally are criminals, no matter how you say it. If our country is so awful, again I have to wonder why so many Hispanics are so eager to come here. Must be something really wrong going on in Central and South America that people want to leave!

<<Yes you help people… to die.
You are such pious philanthropists that you are sooooo loved EVERYWHERE in the world. This is the proof.
You always helped sooo much people! Maybe this is the reason why you are so widly belowed.
Ask in Iraq or Afghanistan how much they love you just for a very present example.
The most atrocious thing is that the majority of you really think these craps, they don’t know ANYTHING of the world outside US and they believe in all these nationalist craps. I have to admit your government made such a good brainwashing on you.>>

Let me clarify something for you, again: I don't agree with my President most of the time and I was against the Iraq War. I think Bush is an idiot, and I voted for John Kerry. However, you have to understand that the United States does a lot of good in the world and we've helped a lot of countries. Why are you so blind that you cannot admit this?

<<Which are my hilarious terms? I would be very pleased if my terms would be “hilarious”. You know, much better sound “hilarious” than idiot, blind nationalist, racist etc…Don’t you think?>>

I am saying that it would be funny to hear some of the insults people would say about Americans because we've heard them all before.

<<MY GOD!! Fionally a true sentence from your mouth. I cannot believe.
That your problem: you do not want to admit you did a lot of wrong things (just to use an euphemism). If you admit it, I’m sure people change their approach toards you.>>

I understand completely. Trust me, I know that our image has worsened in recent years because our President is an imbecile.

<<When I was a child I was a fan of US, but when a person study its history is a burning disappointment. Especially the 20th century one, an endless list of dreadful gestures.>>

We've done some good things in the 20th century, don't make it seem like everything we did was bad. The world would be a much different place if we had not gotten involved in World War I or World War II.

<<So what? Have I to cry? Show us your astonishing linguistic talents
Language deficiencies can be recovered, brain deficiencies not.>>

You missed the point completely.

<<If you tink so….
Can I suggest for your next answer “my dad is richer than yours?”, you forgot it.>>

I've been joking with you all along.

<<No I am not going to say anything, because even if I say my country you even don’t know where it is! Geography is not the best ability of US Americans.>>

Trust me, my friend, if you live on this planet, I know about your country and where it is. I know geography.

<<Furthermore the speech would become a bunch of inexistent insulting stereotypes that is what you want and what Americans do better.>>

Nah, I won't insult you, I promise. I don't even know who you are, as you never sign your posts.

<<Without vomiting stereotypes you are not able to talk. It is enough to see movies, please don’t deny this too.>>

Every country has their stereotypes of other countries. For instance a lot of what you've said about the United States is based on stereotypes.

<<Yes, THAT’S THE POINT! a good laugh to other countries: that is what you are always good to do. Unfortunately you seem not able to see how many laugh at you.>>

So everyone in the world laughs at everyone else. What a great world we have.

<<Anyway we are having a good laugh at you, isn’t enough? Don’t you see NOBODY answer you? Because everybody ignore your foolish way of thinking even your country fellows, the intelligent ones.>>

Several people have responded to these threads.

<<Now I get bored, you became so trite in what you are saying and I’m not going to answer again.>>

Fine, run away since you don't have any legitimate responses.

<<I only wanted to open your eyes on some issues, but you go on thinking these are insults. Stay as you are and good luck for the next 30 years.>>

You act as though I don't know how you people think. Your thoughts aren't original.
asu   Thu May 17, 2007 11:59 pm GMT
It's wonderful: when someone speak bad of US is always "AN OPINION" on the contrary is a fact!!!! Fantastic!
asu   Fri May 18, 2007 12:04 am GMT
It's wonderful: when someone speak bad of US is always "AN OPINION" on the contrary is a fact!!!! Fantastic!
Thomas Jefferson   Fri May 18, 2007 12:18 am GMT
<<It's wonderful: when someone speak bad of US is always "AN OPINION" on the contrary is a fact!!!! Fantastic!>>

We have our negative points, undoubtedly, but they are outweight by our positive points. The United States is still, for the most part, a great country.
Guest   Fri May 18, 2007 5:32 am GMT
Lemme rephrase this:

We have our positive points, undoubtedly, but they are outweight by our negative points. The United States is still, for the most part, an average country.

Now that sounds better.
Thomas Jefferson   Fri May 18, 2007 6:03 am GMT
<<Lemme rephrase this:

We have our positive points, undoubtedly, but they are outweight by our negative points. The United States is still, for the most part, an average country.

Now that sounds better.>>

No, I had it right the first time, douchebag.

It's funny how all of the people who want to criticize the United States are too much of a bunch of pussies to tell everyone what shitty country they're from!

I'm from the United States, and I'm proud to be from the greatest country on the planet. The fact that so many hate us is simply a byproduct of being the best!

GOD BLESS AMERICA, LAND THAT I LOVE
STAND BESIDE HER, AND GUIDE HER
THROUGH THE NIGHT, WITH A LIGHT FROM ABOVE
FROM THE MOUNTAINS, TO THE PRAIRIES
TO THE OCEANS, WHITE WITH FOAM
GOD BLESS AMERICA, MY HOME SWEET HOME
Guest   Fri May 18, 2007 7:03 am GMT
If dropping atom bombs and missiles on other countries and devouring their oil resources at gun point can make you a great nation then dream on. You are the most hated nation on the planet. Wherever your politicians go, they face demonstrations from citizens of that country.

There is a beautiful world exist outside of the USA, your country is not the world for us. You are brainwashed and nationalistic bunch of pussies who got scared out of their wits after 9/11.

I don't live in the world of poems and essays. I live in the real world. Your obnoxious acts throught out the world have created a lot of enemies. You can not travel abroad safely. You are restricted to your insular country.