Prejudice & accents in England....

Robert   Friday, June 13, 2003, 09:31 GMT
A question to Southerners though,

can you tell the difference between Northen accents? ie: can you tell if someone is from Yorkshire,Cheshire,Lancashire,Manchester, and (an easy one) the nort east?

Or do all the Northen accents sound similar?

Because when I went down to northampton and Peterborough, to be honest they sounded very similar to London aceents, i could only really identify if someone is from the South-west of england, or the south east...

Any thoughts?
Clark   Friday, June 13, 2003, 09:51 GMT
I think you have to be British to tell the difference. When I was in England last, I could tell the difference usually between one general area in England, but never between towns like my cousins can do. One of my cousins whose hobby is the English language and culture, can tel you what town a person comes from just by listening to the accent.
Antonio   Friday, June 13, 2003, 11:32 GMT
Londoner: erm... great propaganda of our City...
Londoner   Friday, June 13, 2003, 16:59 GMT
Robert, it's fairly easy to tell the difference between all the Northern accents, they're all quite different and easy to recognise

i would imagine they are easier to recognise than places in the South but living here all my life i find it easy,

for eg all these places can be picked up by accent, obviously some more than others..

Portsmouth, Slough, Reading, Surrey, Kent, Essex, Swindon

they all have people that speak mostly the same but older folk speak the strongest regional dialect which i think is easy to tell
Guofei Ma   Friday, June 13, 2003, 23:47 GMT
My message "aye, aye, Clark" was in response to your statement about most people who don't know their geography being Americans. Very amusing, accurate, and frank indeed.
Clark   Saturday, June 14, 2003, 02:01 GMT
All right; why the question mark? I still do not get it?
Robert   Saturday, June 14, 2003, 16:25 GMT
well do you think it is easy to tell the difference (in accent) between someone from Stockport, and someone from Manchester?
Maria   Sunday, June 15, 2003, 10:22 GMT
It's much easier to recognise the accents of your own area than the others in your country. I could recognise a Londoner, and someone from the South-West, but after that I'd be guessing which town they came from. But come further North and I'd be able to tell the difference between someone from Barnsley and someone from Leeds or Manchester. Newcastle and Liverpool are very easy ones to distinguish. The lancashire and Yorkshire accent sound quite similar, but you can tell them apart! :-)
reginald   Sunday, June 15, 2003, 16:44 GMT
It's also weird how Manchester is classed as Lancashire, but the accent is nothing like Lancastrian (ie:Burnley,Bolton,Blackburn,Oldham).

The Manchester accent is more similar to the Cheshire accent (ie:Macclesfield,Crewe,Stockport)

And the Stopfordian accent is basically a softer version of mancunian, without the slang.
McNight   Sunday, June 15, 2003, 17:40 GMT
It's also weird how Manchester is classed as Lancashire, but the accent is nothing like Lancastrian

Yes it is,

Anyway, Didn't Manchester used to be part of Lancashire.
Maria   Sunday, June 15, 2003, 18:10 GMT
Manchester part of Lancashire? Suppose it did at one time. Betty used to make a lancashire hotpot in the Rovers Return!! It's now has it's own county Manchester doesn't it?
Simon   Monday, June 16, 2003, 05:48 GMT
This is not so wierd (Manchester/Lancashire) because if people outside of London speak with London accents it's by affectation and not natural developments.

What about Mike Reid (Frank Butcher)? Can you imagine him in Reading or Brighton?
Simon to Americans   Monday, June 16, 2003, 06:16 GMT
Take the big American cities New York, Los Angeles, Washington, San Francisco, Chicago etc. Are the accents traditionally associated with these cities similar to those found in their rural hinterlands?
Simon   Monday, June 16, 2003, 06:17 GMT
Yeah London was once London, Middlesex, bits of Essex, bits of Surrey. It was great then - Now it's greater. Greater London.
Rita   Wednesday, June 18, 2003, 02:44 GMT
erm....thanx for the advice, mate...