What must be said: "this kind of mistakes" or "these kind of mistakes"?
I think that the correct form is the first and that the second is a typical English mistake but I am not sure.
Another question: when you say "Me too" (for example, if somebody says "I like this" and you answer "Me too"), shouldn't it be said "I too" because the pronoun is the subject of the sentence?
Both are correct:
"this kind of mistake" (no S)
or
"these kind of mistakes"
"Me too" is colloquial. "I, too" is very formal.
>>"I, too" is very formal.<<
To be honest, I don't think I've ever heard or seen this used in real practice.
results of google search
(1) this kind of mistake /4100/ correct
(2) this kind of mistakes /586/ incorrect but colloquial
(3) these kinds of mistake / 5/ correct but too formal
(4) these kind of mistakes /884/ incorrect but colloquial
(5) these kinds of mistakes /2230/ correct
saya
"Me too" is not a sentence, so there is no reason to replace
the me with an I. The reason we use me is that we think of this
phrase as part of a longer list:
He liked Joe, and Sam, and me, too.
I agree with Mi5 Mick that "I, too" is not idiomatic for
the variety of English I am familiar with.
I copied and pasted where I wrote "these kind of mistakes": this is NOT correct and is NOT even colloquial; I wouldn't say this nor would a native.
I'll write the correct ones:
"This kind of mistake." (kind; mistake)
"These kinds of mistakes." (kinds; mistakes)
"I, too." and not "I, too"
>>"Me too" is colloquial. "I, too" is very formal. <<
As a reaction to "I like this", I would say "So do I" in a formal situation, and "Me too" in an informal one, but never "I, too". In a formal written text I would never use "too", but "as well" or "either" (both at the end of the sentence) instead.
>>As a reaction to "I like this", I would say "So do I" in a formal situation<<
So would I and not only in a formal setting, but in an informal one, as well. "So do I." sounds equally natural as "Me too.".
;)
"I too" sounds very strange, I have never heard it before and I definitely don't use it.
"This kind of mistakes" sounds more logical than "These kind of mistakes" because "kind" is singular and not plural, so in my opinion
it should be "this kind" and not "these kind", no matter which word is following.
You're right, so logically you could also write "these kinds of mistake", but like "this kind of mistakes", it isn't commonly heard. You would normally hear "this kind of mistake" and "these kinds of mistakes": it sounds more natural to match the second quantifier to the first.
* second noun to the first determiner.
To me (1), (2), (3), and (5) are OK.
(4) sounds terrible to my ear.
Actually, one could also say: 'a mistake of this kind', 'mistakes of this kind', etc.
BTW, Sanja, are you native speaker of English?
Actually, my question was both for saya and Sanja.
This kind of mistake = there is only one sort of mistake
These kinds of mistake )
These kinds of mistakes) There are at least two sorts of mistake.
Anything else, I'm afraid, would be considered grammatically incorrect by a UK native speaker - I can't vouch for any others.
I agree with everything Ali said (I'm an American native speaker).
The best way to rephrase the original sentence would be "mistakes of this kind...."