Revival of Auvergne, occitan!

Sander   Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:18 pm GMT
So greg :) no more boycotterai I see?
jean-claude   Fri Jul 15, 2005 6:47 am GMT
" It will be the 1st one, because we are waiting for that in Auvergne and our cousins form Languedoc are the same. "

It makes me laugh !! Do you know that the true french southerners (not from central france regions like auvergne or limousin) consider people from Auvergne, Limousin or Rone-Alpes as northerners... Like Normandy or Bourgogne...
greg   Fri Jul 15, 2005 7:28 am GMT
Sander : si, l'embargo total sur l'anglais continue ! ;)
lou duc del   Mon Jul 18, 2005 7:55 pm GMT
greg   Tue Jul 19, 2005 3:02 pm GMT
Pitoyable...
Lou bouiat   Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:16 pm GMT
no it's not, it is the revival of Auvergne and its culture. We will be free. Here is a wee poem from Lou Gregorio de Pradaillac.

Cuan el frances vian, lou bouiat se defien!
Prende el coustel, per la libertad de mien.
Lou bouiat es indepenze per su poplo noble mas oprima.
Lou bouiat se bast per su bastid, et su montana.

from Lou Gregorio de Pradaillac.

When the french comes, the Auvergnat will defend himself!
Take his sourd, for the freedom of his people.
The auvergnat is independant for his noblety but "oprimé".
The auvergnat fight for his bastide and his mountains.
bernard   Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:30 pm GMT
Freedom for Valery Giscard D'Estaing !!! France should deliver this poor Auvergnat man from French terrific oppression ! How the people of France could have retained this an in Elysée jai during the seventies ! French are oppressors !

The same for Limousin, the French oppresors are stil retaining those proud occitan people in the Jail called "elysée". There is a Man called Chirac (and his proud occitan wife "Bernadette") who is retained there since more than ten years now ! Please free them from the french terrorists who exploite occitan people...
lou bouiat   Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:38 pm GMT
It's because of Giscard d'Estaing if France is industrialised today, bafore there was nothing apart a dictator called De Gaulle. Chirac is not auvergnat but limousin. Do not make any confusion, please.

If Giscard d'Estaing was president, the opressors won't be in that shit a, french oppressors have stolen our land, culture, they won't stole our soul and language.

The world must know who is really the country of Droits de l'homme. Many bretons, auvergnats, basques and provençaux are in jail just because they want to live their french ID. FREEDOM for my people, my cousins and friends.

French human rights are hyprocrisy. When someone like Bernard wrote what he wrote. It prooves to the entire world what france really is.

Why did the France refused form many years to officialise the european languages like basques, occitan, alsacian, flemmish, catalan...

The fight is just beginning!!!
greg   Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:58 pm GMT
Lou bouiat : pourquoi ta quête identitaire passe-t-elle nécessairement par un affrontement magique avec une réalité que tu te refuses à reconnaître ?
Sander   Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:42 am GMT
=>Why did the France refused form many years to officialise the european languages like basques, occitan, alsacian, flemmish, catalan... <=

I hope they still refuse to make Flemish a language,because that isn't a language.
Lou boiat   Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:34 pm GMT
Well Sander if you don't want to believe me :

Our so great country used to sent the men from my family to the death at 1st in the 1st world war, they were not the only one : Basques, catalans, auvergnats and bretons of course were sent the 1st on the front. The auvergnat population was 6 000 000 before and was near 4000 000 after. I am not talking about the bretons and the basques!

have a look on this map, it shows independance revendications in Europe, the 2 which are detected in France are in Bretagne and Basque country (with violence)

http://www.monde-diplomatique.fr/cartes/regions


If you are interested about languages in France, then go to : http://www.ethnologue.com/show_country.asp?name=France

you will notice the dutch is spoken between someother languages, only 2 languages are definitivly extincted : the zarphatic and the shuadit.

so why some people still saying that there is only 1 languages in France?

IT IS NOT THE CASE AND WE WILL BE INDEPENDANT SOONER OR LATER.
greg   Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:48 pm GMT
Lou bouiat : quel est ton programme politique en cas d'indépendence de l'Auvergne ?
jean claude   Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:02 pm GMT
" Chirac is not auvergnat but limousin. Do not make any confusion, please."


The guy who wrote this is unfortunally for himself completly nuts...

- First he didn't understand what was said (I writed that Chirac is from Limousin !)

- And secondly this guy is racist against other occitan peoples than Auvergnats... (like limousins are)... For a man who speak about unity of occitanic people it is a shame !!
Gorges du Tarn   Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:18 pm GMT
-----------"Our so great country used to sent the men from my family to the death at 1st in the 1st world war, they were not the only one : Basques, catalans, auvergnats and bretons of course were sent the 1st on the front. The auvergnat population was 6 000 000 before and was near 4000 000 after. I am not talking about the bretons and the basques! "

T'en as pas marre de te faire passer pour une victime? Tu crois que seules les régions que tu cites ont souffert de la 1ère Guerre mondiale? Bien sûr que ce conflit fut un boucherie...pour tous. Réécrire l'histoire, en français, cela s'appelle du révisionnisme.


Sans rire, j'en viens à me demander si tu ne serais pas paranoïaque. Ca se soigne, mon ami, tu sais ?
Tu n'as rien d'autre à faire de ta vie que de mener un combat d'arrière garde? Nous sommes au 21ème siècle, et à te lire, on se croirait presque au Moyen âge empêtrés dans d'interminables guéguerres entre seigneuries.

Laisse moi te dire que tu fais vraiment pitié (y'a vraiment pas d'autre mot pour te qualifier). Non mais sans blague, pour qui te prends-tu? Tu te permets de parler au nom de tous les auvergnats, comme si tu étais un représentant, démocratiquement élu, des habitants de cette région. Heureusement, tu n'es rien de tout ça et vu ton discours, tu ne risques pas d'intéresser grand'monde hormis quelques illuminés acquis aux idées xénophobes et racistes.

Je trouve d'ailleurs assez amusant que tu dises que l'Auvergne n'est pas la France, car pour un grand nombre de personne, c'est bel et bien la région qui symbolise la "France profonde" par excellence.

Tu ne connais rien à l'Histoire, ni à celle de ta région, ni à celle de la France.

Quand aux langues d'oc, bien que je n'ai rien contre elles, ce sont déjà des langues mortes, que tu le veuilles ou non. Je dirais même que de toutes les langues régionales, ce sont les moins vivaces. Tu peux clamer tant que tu veux que tout le monde dans le sud parle occitan, n'importe qui connaissant la France sait que c'est archi-faux.

Continue à vivre ton délire...je te plains.
greg   Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:18 pm GMT
Si au moins on en apprenait davantage sur la langue ou la culture auvergnate !