Is Spanish expanding?

Shoimu   Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:45 pm GMT
You know what language is expnading? Chinese.
shiv   Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:47 pm GMT
A more original name,

I agree with your message and think the same things, except please don't claim what the 2nd most studied world language is. Maybe it's still French maybe not, but none of us really know without having A LOT of data and statistics to prove it. Also, this only gets the French people here angry and they will ignore the rest of your post.
Colette   Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:59 pm GMT
Nobody cares if the French are angry. It seems that if you don't say French is the most beautiful, studied and important language then they get angry. Then they can be as angry as they want because the reality is that Spanish is more spoken , more beautiful , more studied and more useful than French.
A more original name   Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:33 am GMT
I am completly agree with the messages of "A more original name" and "Shiv".

No more commentes.
Guest   Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:35 am GMT
I am sorry the last post is mine. I copy the name of "A more original name" and paste on your name.

SORRY
Francophobe   Sat Jan 17, 2009 10:04 am GMT
You Hispanies are funny. You all like to get together here and talk about how great Spanish is, who speaks it, post obsure articles, and downtalk other languages. You should be aware that it's always the endangered groups that need to constently pat themselves on the back and remind each other of "how great they are". It's like a support group for people with problems. You need to accept that Spanish was/is not/will never important or useful and that there are many other important languages in the world. English and French are the primary languages used for international global communication, not Spanish. Spanish is a regional language like Chinese.
Visitor   Sat Jan 17, 2009 10:10 am GMT
<< Visitor, did you comprehend the main points of my last post? Here is our difference (and your lack of logic): I know the native languages exist in Latin America, but I give very clear and simple points that show why they don't threaten Spanish. You, however, (based on what you are posting) seem to think that the mere existance of native languages threaten Spanish...simply because they exist. This is where you are wrong and illogical. Remember I could make the same claim about native languages in "French Africa" also.

So please get a life and quit posting links that show some people speak a native language in LA. WE ALREADY KNOW THEY DO! I'm not going to waste my time posting links showing Africans speaking there native languages for the same reason. You are wasting you time my friend.

Also, French is not growing in the US. In fact, the last statistics for 2006 showed that French (while still 2nd) had the LEAST growth while all other languages showed more. The trend is apparent. >>

You're thoe one who's without logic. Before, everyone believed that Spanish is spoken in the entire Hispanic America because the governmet of those countries lied and withheld the true information until some sociologist revealed that more than half of the population Peru and Bolivia and almost half of Ecuador are native speakers combined of Quechua and Aymara. Large percentage of them do not speak Spanish at all.

Spanish is number one in the US it's because of those 2nd generation Hispsnics who want to learn their ancestral language but only a few of real Yankees bother to take Spanish in secondary school but opt for French instead because it's far more USEFUL than Spanish.
Coleta   Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:01 pm GMT
Spanish is dying: The government of Pru, Bolivia, and Ecuador has a plan to make Quechua and Aymara the working languages of the nations in detriment of Spanish. The have already made Quechua and Aymara the official languages and now they are teaching this language in schools. In 20 years they expect Quechua and Aymara to be the mother tongue of people in Peru, Bolivia, and Ecuador.
Coleta   Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:23 pm GMT
Spanish is dying: The government of Peru, Bolivia, and Ecuador has a plan to make Quechua and Aymara the working languages of the nations in detriment of Spanish. They have already made Quechua and Aymara the official languages and now they are teaching this language in schools. In 20 years they expect Quechua and Aymara to be the mother tongue of people in Peru, Bolivia, and Ecuador.
Colette   Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:44 pm GMT
Spanish can deal perfectly well with those native languages because they are condemned to die, no matter if they are official or not as money in those countries speaks Spanish but French has to rival against a big language like English. People in Madagascar are learning English to do business with other African English speaking countries so this will lead to the dissapearance of the French language in Africa. French will only be spoken in rural zones in Quebec by backward people.
*__*   Sat Jan 17, 2009 4:00 pm GMT
Ne vous faites pas fou "Guest" t'a toujours ton mental hallucinant pailles sont beaucoup de plaisir.
Visitor   Sat Jan 17, 2009 4:02 pm GMT
Hispanic Guest has no social life. he spends his time in Antimoon, Instituto Cerveza, and other hispanic blogs full of lies just like his head full of lice (haha, yes I know it...).
Coleta   Sat Jan 17, 2009 4:30 pm GMT
Use of Spanish language dies quickly among generations of Hispanic immigrants
The Associated Press

Published: September 13, 2006
TRENTON, New Jersey A few generations after families move to the United States from Latin American countries, fluency in Spanish dies out and English becomes the dominant language, according to a new paper published by sociology professors from New Jersey and California.

The paper counters popular arguments that the size of Latino immigration to the United States could create a bilingual society and a fundamental change in American culture.

Such sentiments have played a role in debates over U.S. immigration law and touched off a controversy earlier this year over a Spanish-language version of "The Star-Spangled Banner."

The paper — authored by Douglas Massey at Princeton University and Ruben Rumbaut and Frank Bean at the University of California, Irvine — found Spanish giving way to English among Southern California's heavily Hispanic population.

The study suggests that Mexican immigrants arriving in Southern California today can expect only five out of every 100 of their great-grandchildren to speak fluent Spanish.

"Even in the nation's largest Spanish-speaking enclave, within a border region that historically belonged to Mexico, Spanish appears to be well on the way to a natural death by the third generation of U.S. residence," the researchers said in the paper, published in the September issue of the journal "Population and Development Review."

The authors of the new paper use survey data to show that Hispanics with each successive generation are becoming English speakers, just like previous immigration waves in U.S. history.

The paper draws on two studies, one conducted in 2004 and the other in 2001 to 2003, to assemble a sample of 5,703 Southern California residents. Among the group, 1,642 had Mexican roots and a total of 2,262 had Latin American ancestry.

Survival of Spanish among the descendants of Mexican and Central-American immigrants was higher than among other groups, but still followed the usual pattern of English taking over as the years passed.

Among Mexican-Americans with two U.S.-born parents but three or more foreign-born grandparents, only 17 percent spoke fluent Spanish. Among those with only one or two foreign-born grandparents, Spanish fluency dropped to 7 percent.

Only 5 percent of Mexican-Americans with U.S.-born parents and U.S.-born grandparents spoke Spanish fluently.

Among the third generation of Mexican-Americans, 96 percent prefer to speak English in their homes.

"Historical and contemporary evidence indicates that English has never been seriously threatened as the dominant language of the United States," wrote the authors of the paper. "What is endangered instead is the survival of the non-English languages that immigrants bring with them to the United States."

In April, Hispanic performers and record producers released a Spanish-language version of the U.S. national anthem, which inspired a public backlash and led President George W. Bush to declare that "the national anthem ought to be sung in English."


TRENTON, New Jersey A few generations after families move to the United States from Latin American countries, fluency in Spanish dies out and English becomes the dominant language, according to a new paper published by sociology professors from New Jersey and California.

The paper counters popular arguments that the size of Latino immigration to the United States could create a bilingual society and a fundamental change in American culture.

Such sentiments have played a role in debates over U.S. immigration law and touched off a controversy earlier this year over a Spanish-language version of "The Star-Spangled Banner."

The paper — authored by Douglas Massey at Princeton University and Ruben Rumbaut and Frank Bean at the University of California, Irvine — found Spanish giving way to English among Southern California's heavily Hispanic population.

The study suggests that Mexican immigrants arriving in Southern California today can expect only five out of every 100 of their great-grandchildren to speak fluent Spanish.

"Even in the nation's largest Spanish-speaking enclave, within a border region that historically belonged to Mexico, Spanish appears to be well on the way to a natural death by the third generation of U.S. residence," the researchers said in the paper, published in the September issue of the journal "Population and Development Review."

The authors of the new paper use survey data to show that Hispanics with each successive generation are becoming English speakers, just like previous immigration waves in U.S. history.

The paper draws on two studies, one conducted in 2004 and the other in 2001 to 2003, to assemble a sample of 5,703 Southern California residents. Among the group, 1,642 had Mexican roots and a total of 2,262 had Latin American ancestry.

Survival of Spanish among the descendants of Mexican and Central-American immigrants was higher than among other groups, but still followed the usual pattern of English taking over as the years passed.

Among Mexican-Americans with two U.S.-born parents but three or more foreign-born grandparents, only 17 percent spoke fluent Spanish. Among those with only one or two foreign-born grandparents, Spanish fluency dropped to 7 percent.

Only 5 percent of Mexican-Americans with U.S.-born parents and U.S.-born grandparents spoke Spanish fluently.

Among the third generation of Mexican-Americans, 96 percent prefer to speak English in their homes.

"Historical and contemporary evidence indicates that English has never been seriously threatened as the dominant language of the United States," wrote the authors of the paper. "What is endangered instead is the survival of the non-English languages that immigrants bring with them to the United States."

In April, Hispanic performers and record producers released a Spanish-language version of the U.S. national anthem, which inspired a public backlash and led President George W. Bush to declare that "the national anthem ought to be sung in English."


TRENTON, New Jersey A few generations after families move to the United States from Latin American countries, fluency in Spanish dies out and English becomes the dominant language, according to a new paper published by sociology professors from New Jersey and California.

The paper counters popular arguments that the size of Latino immigration to the United States could create a bilingual society and a fundamental change in American culture.

Such sentiments have played a role in debates over U.S. immigration law and touched off a controversy earlier this year over a Spanish-language version of "The Star-Spangled Banner."

The paper — authored by Douglas Massey at Princeton University and Ruben Rumbaut and Frank Bean at the University of California, Irvine — found Spanish giving way to English among Southern California's heavily Hispanic population.

The study suggests that Mexican immigrants arriving in Southern California today can expect only five out of every 100 of their great-grandchildren to speak fluent Spanish.

"Even in the nation's largest Spanish-speaking enclave, within a border region that historically belonged to Mexico, Spanish appears to be well on the way to a natural death by the third generation of U.S. residence," the researchers said in the paper, published in the September issue of the journal "Population and Development Review."

The authors of the new paper use survey data to show that Hispanics with each successive generation are becoming English speakers, just like previous immigration waves in U.S. history.

The paper draws on two studies, one conducted in 2004 and the other in 2001 to 2003, to assemble a sample of 5,703 Southern California residents. Among the group, 1,642 had Mexican roots and a total of 2,262 had Latin American ancestry.

Survival of Spanish among the descendants of Mexican and Central-American immigrants was higher than among other groups, but still followed the usual pattern of English taking over as the years passed.

Among Mexican-Americans with two U.S.-born parents but three or more foreign-born grandparents, only 17 percent spoke fluent Spanish. Among those with only one or two foreign-born grandparents, Spanish fluency dropped to 7 percent.

Only 5 percent of Mexican-Americans with U.S.-born parents and U.S.-born grandparents spoke Spanish fluently.

Among the third generation of Mexican-Americans, 96 percent prefer to speak English in their homes.

"Historical and contemporary evidence indicates that English has never been seriously threatened as the dominant language of the United States," wrote the authors of the paper. "What is endangered instead is the survival of the non-English languages that immigrants bring with them to the United States."

In April, Hispanic performers and record producers released a Spanish-language version of the U.S. national anthem, which inspired a public backlash and led President George W. Bush to declare that "the national anthem ought to be sung in English."


TRENTON, New Jersey A few generations after families move to the United States from Latin American countries, fluency in Spanish dies out and English becomes the dominant language, according to a new paper published by sociology professors from New Jersey and California.

The paper counters popular arguments that the size of Latino immigration to the United States could create a bilingual society and a fundamental change in American culture.

Such sentiments have played a role in debates over U.S. immigration law and touched off a controversy earlier this year over a Spanish-language version of "The Star-Spangled Banner."

The paper — authored by Douglas Massey at Princeton University and Ruben Rumbaut and Frank Bean at the University of California, Irvine — found Spanish giving way to English among Southern California's heavily Hispanic population.

The study suggests that Mexican immigrants arriving in Southern California today can expect only five out of every 100 of their great-grandchildren to speak fluent Spanish.

"Even in the nation's largest Spanish-speaking enclave, within a border region that historically belonged to Mexico, Spanish appears to be well on the way to a natural death by the third generation of U.S. residence," the researchers said in the paper, published in the September issue of the journal "Population and Development Review."

The authors of the new paper use survey data to show that Hispanics with each successive generation are becoming English speakers, just like previous immigration waves in U.S. history.

The paper draws on two studies, one dies, one conducted in 2004 and the other in 2001 to 2003, to assemble a sample of 5,703 Southern California residents. Among the group, 1,642 had Mexican roots and a total of 2,262 had Latin American ancestry.

Survival of Spanish among the descendants of Mexican and Central-American immigrants was higher than among other groups, but still followed the usual pattern of English taking over as the years passed.

Among Mexican-Americans with two U.S.-born parents but three or more foreign-born grandparents, only 17 percent spoke fluent Spanish. Among those with only one or two foreign-born grandparents, Spanish fluency dropped to 7 percent.

Only 5 percent of Mexican-Americans with U.S.-born parents and U.S.-born grandparents spoke Spanish fluently.

Among the third generation of Mexican-Americans, 96 percent prefer to speak English in their homes.

"Historical and contemporary evidence indicates that English has never been seriously threatened as the dominant language of the United States," wrote the authors of the paper. "What is endangered instead is the survival of the non-English languages that immigrants bring with them to the United States."

In April, Hispanic performers and record producers released a Spanish-language version of the U.S. national anthem, which inspired a public backlash and led President George W. Bush to declare that "the national anthem ought to be sung in English."


TRENTON, New Jersey A few generations after families move to the United States from Latin American countries, fluency in Spanish dies out and English becomes the dominant language, according to a new paper published by sociology professors from New Jersey and California.

The paper counters popular arguments that the size of Latino immigration to the United States could create a bilingual society and a fundamental change in American culture.

Such sentiments have played a role in debates over U.S. immigration law and touched off a controversy earlier this year over a Spanish-language version of "The Star-Spangled Banner."

The paper — authored by Douglas Massey at Princeton University and Ruben Rumbaut and Frank Bean at the University of California, Irvine — found Spanish giving way to English among Southern California's heavily Hispanic population.

The study suggests that Mexican immigrants arriving in Southern California today can expect only five out of every 100 of their great-grandchildren to speak fluent Spanish.

"Even in the nation's largest Spanish-speaking enclave, within a border region that historically belonged to Mexico, Spanish appears to be well on the way to a natural death by the third generation of U.S. residence," the researchers said in the paper, published in the September issue of the journal "Population and Development Review."

The authors of the new paper use survey data to show that Hispanics with each successive generation are becoming English speakers, just like previous immigration waves in U.S. history.

The paper draws on two studies, one conducted in 2004 and the other in 2001 to 2003, to assemble a sample of 5,703 Southern California residents. Among the group, 1,642 had Mexican roots and a total of 2,262 had Latin American ancestry.

Survival of Spanish among the descendants of Mexican and Central-American immigrants was higher than among other groups, but still followed the usual pattern of English taking over as the years passed.

Among Mexican-Americans with two U.S.-born parents but three or more foreign-born grandparents, only 17 percent spoke fluent Spanish. Among those with only one or two foreign-born grandparents, Spanish fluency dropped to 7 percent.

Only 5 percent of Mexican-Americans with U.S.-born parents and U.S.-born grandparents spoke Spanish fluently.

Among the third generation of Mexican-Americans, 96 percent prefer to speak English in their homes.

"Historical and contemporary evidence indicates that English has never been seriously threatened as the dominant language of the United States," wrote the authors of the paper. "What is endangered instead is the survival of the non-English languages that immigrants bring with them to the United States."

In April, Hispanic performers and record producers released a Spanish-language version of the U.S. national anthem, which inspired a public backlash and led President George W. Bush to declare that "the national anthem ought to be sung in English."


TRENTON, New Jersey A few generations after families move to the United States from Latin American countries, fluency in Spanish dies out and English becomes the dominant language, according to a new paper published by sociology professors from New Jersey and California.

The paper counters popular arguments that the size of Latino immigration to the United States could create a bilingual society and a fundamental change in American culture.

Such sentiments have played a role in debates over U.S. immigration law and touched off a controversy earlier this year over a Spanish-language version of "The Star-Spangled Banner."

The paper — authored by Douglas Massey at Princeton University and Ruben Rumbaut and Frank Bean at the University of California, Irvine — found Spanish giving way to English among Southern California's heavily Hispanic population.

The study suggests that Mexican immigrants arriving in Southern California today can expect only five out of every 100 of their great-grandchildren to speak fluent Spanish.

"Even in the nation's largest Spanish-speaking enclave, within a border region that historically belonged to Mexico, Spanish appears to be well on the way to a natural death by the third generation of U.S. residence," the researchers said in the paper, published in the September issue of the journal "Population and Development Review."

The authors of the new paper use survey data to show that Hispanics with each successive generation are becoming English speakers, just like previous immigration waves in U.S. history.

The paper draws on two studies, one conducted in 2004 and the other in 2001 to 2003, to assemble a sample of 5,703 Southern California residents. Among the group, 1,642 had Mexican roots and a total of 2,262 had Latin American ancestry.

Survival of Spanish among the descendants of Mexican and Central-American immigrants was higher than among other groups, but still followed the usual pattern of English taking over as the years passed.

Among Mexican-Americans with two U.S.-born parents but three or more foreign-born grandparents, only 17 percent spoke fluent Spanish. Among those with only one or two foreign-born grandparents, Spanish fluency dropped to 7 percent.

Only 5 percent of Mexican-Americans with U.S.-born parents and U.S.-born grandparents spoke Spanish fluently.

Among the third generation of Mexican-Americans, 96 percent prefer to speak English in their homes.

"Historical and contemporary evidence indicates that English has never been seriously threatened as the dominant language of the United States," wrote the authors of the paper. "What is endangered instead is the survival of the non-English languages that immigrants bring with them to the United States."

In April, Hispanic performers and record producers released a Spanish-language version of the U.S. national anthem, which inspired a public backlash and led President George W. Bush to declare that "the national anthem ought to be sung in English."

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/09/13/america/NA_GEN_US_Losing_Spanish.php
Obama   Sat Jan 17, 2009 4:50 pm GMT
I USA there are more first generation migrants than third generation Hispanics so the end result is tha Spanish is actually expanding in USA. Will first generation Hispanics cease migrating to USA? Who knows, also one may wonder if third generation Hispanics will cease using English exclusively and not Spanish. Who knows but currently the reality is that Spanish speakers are increasing in USA thanks to first generation migrants and that is the situation we have to deal with. On the contrary, French speakers in Canada , despite better backed by laws and all, are decreasing in favor of English.
Bush   Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:16 am GMT
<< I USA there are more first generation migrants than third generation Hispanics so the end result is tha Spanish is actually expanding in USA. Will first generation Hispanics cease migrating to USA? Who knows, also one may wonder if third generation Hispanics will cease using English exclusively and not Spanish. Who knows but currently the reality is that Spanish speakers are increasing in USA thanks to first generation migrants and that is the situation we have to deal with. On the contrary, French speakers in Canada , despite better backed by laws and all, are decreasing in favor of English. >>

Congratulations because you're one of the few hispanics who maintained the Spanish language after a generation!

Bur it's not enough to ensure the the survival of Spanish in the US of A