Spanish in Europe

Greg   Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:59 am GMT
Les espagnols sont des sacs à merde, c'est une réalité bien connue dans mon pays, le plus beau du monde : la France. L'espagne est un nauséabonde et sent les fajitas gras. Pobrecidad y mierda estan los puntos mas importantes en Espana!!! Hay Caramba, senta la mirda en las calles de Madrid y Barcelona cunado senta las flores et perfum en la calles de Marsella, Lyon, Tolosa y Paris!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
latino   Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:14 am GMT
Greg

cuidate hijo, !te va a dar algo! la realidad te destroza.

Ejemplo de lo "GRANDE" que es y " que nos supera y une a todos":

Posiblemente las POTENCIAS que defenderán a "nuestro idioma" ante el resto del mundo en el siglo XXI serán fijo:

BRASIL y UNITED STATES/ESTADOS UNIDOS. ....(los jóvenes franceses lo estudian )........... e "incluso" EU

!GRANDE EH!

mal que les pese a muchos.

Hijo !tomate la medicación! que te queda mucho por sufrir por la rabia que tienes.
latino   Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:28 am GMT
Nada mas ni nada menos que por esto

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_Iel-u709A

y por esto

http://libertadlinguistica.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=42&Itemid=2

luego !tenemos la autoestima por las nubes! y no nos afecta tu odio, mas bien das pena.
David   Sun Apr 25, 2010 4:56 pm GMT
Ferme ta geule, putain de macaque. Sans l\'argent européen, tu serais encore en train de courir dans la brousse, et ta mère nous ferait encore des pipes pas chères pour te payer à manger. Il te reste juste un mot à dire : merci, peuple européen. And if you don\'t understand french :

Shut up, shitty spanish macaque. Without European taxes, you\'d still be running around in the bush, and your mother would still make us cheap blowjobs to buy you something to eat. You have just to say : thank you, European people.
PS : now, your sweet mum continues to delight us, but for free...
Matematik   Sun Apr 25, 2010 5:47 pm GMT
Spanish is a poor language spoken by greasy third worlders. Spain receives almost as much EU funding as Eastern European shitholes, the Spanish natives really are poor people, if you drive thought Spain, often you will see children with no shoes crossing the "road", or more accurately, dirt track.

To us Northern European Germanics, Gypsies, Arabs and Spaniards are basically the same race. It's also still very common to see people walking on the road with donkeys, and this is a country which thinks of itself as first world. It's more like Morocco than Northern Europe.

Oxfam should have a "Save the Spaniards" campaign, and show pictures of the poor little Spanish children living in horrendous conditions. Maybe us benevolent British can send some money for them to by shoes and a pen?
latino   Sun Apr 25, 2010 7:05 pm GMT
Ejemplo de lo "GRANDE" que es lo latino y " que nos supera y une a todos":

Posiblemente las POTENCIAS que defenderán a "nuestro idioma" ante el resto del mundo en el siglo XXI serán fijo:

BRASIL y UNITED STATES/ESTADOS UNIDOS.

........... e "incluso" EU

!GRANDE EH!
latino   Sun Apr 25, 2010 7:59 pm GMT
Te aconsejo , si no lo sabes ya, que empieces a estudiarlo.


Es por tu futuro hijo, estamos hablando de dinero.

!adueu!
El Zorro   Sun Apr 25, 2010 8:39 pm GMT
"Spanish is a poor language spoken by greasy third worlders"

Idiota, el español es hablado por unos 70 millones de europeos y por unos 60 millones de personas en Estados Unidos. En USA y Union Europea hay unos 130 millones de personas que hablan español.

A ellos hay que añadir a una importante población de clase media en Latino America, cada vez mas amplia.
Baldewin   Sun Apr 25, 2010 8:51 pm GMT
Spanish is a noble language. They're nowadays suffering from the fact they were more human in the past. Spanish didn't murder people who were less advanced than them, unlike the Anglos who had to import negro slaves after that.
Nowadays Spanish is seen as a third world language. This wouldn't be the case had they massacred the Meso-American people en masse, instead of letting them live and mixing with them (even though they have indeed committed a cultural genocide, it wasn't a human one).

Same with South Africa. If they massacred the Bantu tribes en masse, South Africa would nowadays be seen as 'a democratic and Enlightened' bastion in an African economic desert. If the Boers and Anglos were crueler they would be praised afterward. The fact they were slightly inhuman and suppressed less advanced people, is what makes Americans who they themselves descent from genocidal maniacs to condemn them.
Franco   Sun Apr 25, 2010 8:59 pm GMT
I don't think the Spanish were much more human in reality. It simply happened that in North America density of natives was lower than in the case of Mexico (comparable in terms of density of population to India). Add to that the fact that Spanish conquerors were men of fortune and didn't carry their wives as had the hope of coming back to Spain with incredible amounts of gold. On the other hand Anglo settlers went to America with their wives , children and the plan of a fesh start in America . The case of Argentina is more comparable to USa, low density of natives, mass migration of Europeans with their families, but yeah, even Argentina has considerably more natives than USA and they are better integrated in mainstream population instead of being in reserves.
Jeremy D.C.   Sun Apr 25, 2010 9:02 pm GMT
Baldewin, so you're saying modern society would've praised Hitler had he exterminated the entire Jewish population? I doubt that Spanish would be considered greater if its speakers had killed off all of the "primitive" peoples living in their colonies instead of, as you put it, "mixing with them." Besides, depending on the people you speak to, Spanish isn't considered just a third word language. If that were true, why would businesses and schools be encouraging students to study it since knowing Spanish and indeed other foreign languages can help rather than hurt? The culture that kills the most isn't necessarily the one that will be praised the most in the end.
Baldewin   Tue Apr 27, 2010 1:07 pm GMT
I'm of course exaggerating. Also, without trying to justify anything, many of the natives weren't better themselves and often subjugated other peoples (like the Aztecs for instance, or the Zulus who have committed genocides on the Khoisan and their fellow Bantu Xhosa). The problem is that advancement of a people doesn't guarantee more humaneness (even though it pretty much proofs human nature actually can be very cruel) and the one having the technological upper-hand ends up killing masses.

It's of course ridiculous being ashamed being a US citizen (land grabbers), Spanish (gold looters), Dutch (slave trading capitalists), etc... Being blindly proud of such 'successes' neither would be a great thing to do (like how Timur Lenk is a hero in Uzbekistan or how Genghis Khan is in Mongolia; even though we ourselves also respect Napoleon and Julius Caesar, even Flemish have some respect for Napoleon, even though he did more bad than good for us ;-))
In general people can be sheep who believe every propaganda and see their own nation as some 'force of righteousness'.
Who in the US knows that their government bribed Japanese war criminals who did human experiment into not condemning them in exchange for their experimental data (Shiro Ishi was never condemned for his brutal crimes on the Chinese people and died as were he a normal family man; he was no better than Joseph Mengele)? This while they play as moral heroes in condemning German war criminals (and rightly so) and Germany still being put in a corner in being ashamed of their history, this while the Japanese do everything to erase theirs? A realist knows the world isn't a happy place, but striving toward some morality is something that needs to be upheld IMO, even though people have to realize our world isn't some utopia.