Why is greek such a funny language?

Dardan   Thu Dec 21, 2006 3:28 am GMT
I'm sorry, Guest is me, Dardan, forgot to put name in "da boxie".

Oh, yes, again forgot the full-requested ID:

Name: Dardan
Nationality - Albanian
Statehood - Albanian/Greek
Religion - Christian Orthodox
Flag: Albanian Flag - Red with a Black Eagle in center-since 3000 years.

Thank you!
See you around!
Calliope   Thu Dec 21, 2006 7:28 am GMT
...and here we go again...

It got old, folks. But by all means - keep going.
Pelasgus   Thu Dec 21, 2006 8:36 am GMT
Dardan said Panagiotis (must be greek by the name)

There have been Greek nicknames,chosen by Albanians,Skopians etc I can put a nick and telling you that I am Albanian or Japanese,The Arguement is the same by all of them(dark skin,arab turk influence,bla,bla)

Chams were expelled not during the greek dictatorhip(1967-1974)
but during the Nazi-occupation of Greece by the greek resistance with the help also of English Allies(1944-45).Τhose Albanian muslims were collaborators to Nazis against the Greeks.Many populations in all Europe(friendly to Nazis) were also expelled.

As for the Arvanites(Orthodox Tosks),they have become Greeks as many Illyrians,Pelasgians,Thracians,Slavs,Aromanians integrated into the greek nation. Is there a nation,which has not assimilated people?
Go and read the history of Italians,Turks,French,Russians,etc

"Red with a Black Eagle in center-since 3000 years."
The red-black is the war flag of byzantine empire.
The first Bicephal Eagle was found in Asia Minor(Hittites)
The two-headed eagle slowly disappears during the last Hittite period, from the 9th century BC to the 7th century BC and totally disappears after the end of the empire.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-headed_eagle

We use an albanian word "Besa" Faith to friendship,oath
besoj I believe.So let's have besa,and not sockpuppetting
under greek nicknames.
Petar   Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:33 am GMT
Lol...greeks are so paranoid...it's unbelievable...but hey...nevermind.

Pelasgus,

It looks that you have some information here and there about some of the issues discussed here, but I must suggest you in the friendliest way possible that the real answers of some issues you mentioned in the last posting cannot be found in wikipedia or any site of that genre, but in the old, sacred and most of all, secret books of ... (if you know, you know...)

I cannot tell you much as no one can, and you have to go through the process alone, but I can freely say that the Albanian flag is older than stated from Dardan or any empire you mentioned, it always belonged to Albanians since the times they were called with a different name and lived somewhere else, not too far from todays Albania...in a very sacred place... :-)

Good luck with your research, and don't get shocked from your findings... :-)
Pelasgus   Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:36 am GMT
I am the only,who gives multiple links not only from wikipedia.
The first bicephal eagle has been found in Minor Asia,Hittites,Indoeuropean people(Archeological evidence).Many states use this emblem(Serbs,Albanians
Greeks,Romans,Russian,Austrians,Germans...

Let's have our turn.Why all the Albanians are not white,blond?...................
Radiki   Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:10 pm GMT
I am Turkish girl learning Greek for 1.5 years and Greek is a great language, very rich and very interesting. You have the chance to express yourself with many expressions.Besides the way the Greeks express themselves is very similar to Turks so it makes it much more enjoyable for me to learn it.
Greeks being Turks or Arabs can be said to any other nation in any place in the world. I mean, we have lived for many years and there were many nations together. So who can proove that Turks in Turkey are 100% Turks now. Being a member of nation is about defining yourself and accepting a culture, it's not about the genetic code. So i find such an argument meaningless.
Pelasgus   Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:49 pm GMT
Merhaba,hoş geldin kardeş kız, ,göryorsun greek turkish survivor? :)
@Radiki
is a greek name for a kind of eatable grass.
Let me give an example of Greek muslims who became Turks
because at that time the first criterion was religion.

Muslims from the region of Epirus, known collectively as Yanyalılar (Yanyalı in singular, meaning "person from Ioannina") in Turkish and Τουρκογιαννιώτες Turkoyanyótes in Greek (Τουρκογιαννιώτης Turkoyanyótis in singular, meaning "Turk from Ioannina"), who had arrived in two waves of migration in 1912 and after 1923 were known to be Greek-speaking, much like the Cretans, as a result of symbiosis with the Greek culture. Today, the community is fully integrated inside Turkey's culture.

Greek Muslims of Pontus,Cretan and Cypriots Muslims.(All are Turks today)
http://www.answers.com/topic/greek-muslims

So if you dig into the history,you will find a lot of interesting things.
Nationality is something you feel and cannot be judged by the blood.;)
Vaios_Greek   Thu Dec 21, 2006 4:18 pm GMT
Has anybody of you read the history of Greece? Ignorants talking nonsense without having any respect for those who taught you how to be civilized. Does anybody of you speak the ancient Greek language or even the today's Greek language? Does any of you know that it's the only language based on numerology? Does anybody of you know that this language has given words and terms in every other language of the occident world.
Here is speech by one of the presidents of Greece in the counsil of the U.N.

«The hellenic orthopedic physicians have synchronized their dynamism and energy with the European Organization of Orthopedics and Traumatology to generate this symbiotic and not ephemeral synthesis of charismatic academic scholars and are enthusiastic with the atmosphere of euphoria and analogous ecstasy in Dodecanisa, Rodos.

Rodos is a graphic hellenic metropolitan center in the Aegean archipelagos, with myriads of archaeological and historical sites. Rodos is a geographical paradise of cryptic and chimerical icons of idyllic charm, amalgamated with hellenic gastronomy of moussaka, souvlaki, ouzo emporia and euphoria of the rhyme and rhythm of bouzouki, byzantine and Spanoudakis music.

A plethora of basic and didactic themes in the sphere of orthopedics and traumatology, such as trauma of the musculosceletal system, arthroscopic and arthoplasty surgery, pediatric orthopedics, polytrauma, podiatric surgery, carpus and dactylic surgery with traumatic and genetic anomalies, microsurgery, spondolopathies like scoliosis, kyphosis and spondylolisthesis, osteoporosis and pharmacologic and prophylactic therapeutic policies will be emphasized.

Diagnostic methods and etiological therapy of traumatic, non-physiological and pathological syndromes, therapeutic schemes and strategies will be analyzed and synthesized at this academic symposium on the basis of democratic climate and with the scope of a non-dogmatic and egocentric dialogue, which I prophesize will be an historic phenomenon and paradigm of dynamic synergy and harmony between polyethnic orthopedic physicians of the European Epirus.

To paraphrase, with the phobia and dilemma of being tautological, let me emphasize that the logistics and machinations in this academic symposium, will generate the scheme and type of our harmonic synergy and syndesmosis.

Pragmatically, it is my thesis and not hypothesis that the next phase and programmed orthopedic symposium in Helsinki, which I eulogize, will be as dynamic and with colossal kyros as in Rodos, Hellas.

I apologize for my eulogistic demagogy and if my etymological glossary is based on philosophic or symbolic metaphors and lexical hyperbole, please sympathize with me and apologize for the idiosyncrasy of zealous hellenic practicing orthopedic physician who is also fanatically enthusiastic about the giant anode of European propaedutics and academics in orthopedics and traumatology.»

All these words written in this text are Greek. ALL. Perhaps you speak Greek too, and you don't even know. Oh, how funny this language is...

P.S. I'm sorry, you are right. The words in, of, and in the text above are not Greek. Ignorants. Even the word ignorant is Greek.
Vaios_Greek   Thu Dec 21, 2006 4:33 pm GMT
I'm terribly sorry. The speech above isn't the speech in the counsil of the U.N. It's a speech of a doctor at an international medical convention.
Here is the correct speech :

Speech by Prof. Zolotas
''Kyrie, It is Zeus' anathema on our epoch for the dynamism of our economies
and the heresy of our economic methods and policies that we should agonize
between the Scylla of numismatic plethora and the Charybdis of economic
anaemia. It is not my idiosyncrasy to be ironic or sarcastic but my diagnosis
would be that politicians are rather cryptoplethorists. Although they
emphatically stigmatize numismatic plethora, energize it through their tactics
and practices.
Our policies have to be based more on economic and less on political
criteria. Our gnomon has to be a metron between political, strategic and
philanthropic scopes. Political magic has always been anti-economic.
In an epoch characterized by monopolies, oligopolies, menopsonies, monopoli-
stic antagonism and polymorphous inelasticities, our policies have to be more
orthological. But this should not be metamorphosed into plethorophobia which is
endemic among academic economists. Numismatic symmetry should not antagonize
economic acme. A greater harmonization between the practices of the economic and
numismatic archons is basic.
Parallel to this, we have to synchronize and harmonize more and more our
economic and numismatic policies pan-ethnically.
These scopes are more practical now, when the prognostics of the political and
economic barometer are halcyonic.
The history of our didymous organisations in this sphere has been didactic and
their gnostic practices will always be a tonic to the polyonymous and
idiomorphous ethnical economics. The genesis of the programmed organisations
will dynamize these policies. I sympathise, therefore, with the aposties and
the hierarchy of our organisations in their zeal to programme orthodox economic
and numismatic policies, although I have some logomachy with them. I apologize
for having tyrannized you with my hellenic phraseology. In my epilogue, I
emphasize my eulogy to the philoxenous autochthons of this cosmopolitan
metropolis and my encomium to you, kyrie, and the stenographers.''
Pelasgus   Thu Dec 21, 2006 4:41 pm GMT
Ok formal English language is full of greek words.
but ignorant derives from latin ignorantia, from ignorantem, prp. of ignorare from in- "not" + Old L. gnarus "aware, acquainted with," from Porot-L. suffixed form *gno-ro-, related to gnoscere "to know" (see know). Form influenced by ignotus "unknown"

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=ignorant
Petar   Thu Dec 21, 2006 8:14 pm GMT
Here we go again...another itchy greek throwing acid on other peoples' faces...keep it up Vaios, keep it up...

...man...are some guys too far from civilization or what...?

@Pelasgus

You are still not at the right frame regarding the Albanian flag, mister. Believe me, this issue is very, very delicate and let's say...hmmm...very secret...and it includes sacred cities, journees, sacred ...and a forum is not the right place to discuss it. As I said before, you have to do a "different" kind of research and believe me, the conclusions are shocking!

Let's talk some more about greek language, please...
Pelasgus   Thu Dec 21, 2006 8:24 pm GMT
Υou also called the greeks paranoid.So Vaios just reacted.I don't care
about "I think","secret theories" and "ad hominem insults".

If you have facts,give it. or I can allege that bicephal eagle is Ethiopian :)
Petar   Thu Dec 21, 2006 9:14 pm GMT
Dear Pelasgus,

I understand your frustration and I really want to discuss these things by giving you some very disturbing facts, but this is not the right place. It's all "out there", you just have to know where to look...
Pelasgus   Thu Dec 21, 2006 9:53 pm GMT
I have no frustration,I am greek first of all by culture and language.
You who boast of your white blood,you should desparately care to preserve it maybe with another isolation period of your history.
The planet is being changed. Take care.
Petar   Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:03 pm GMT
I thought I was being friendly. What is wrong with you? What blood? What isolation? What history? What in the world are you talking about man? Is this some kind of a code language you are using?

No, no, serious, what are you talking about?