Proto Germanic / Germanic Languages Similarities

Sander   Tuesday, March 01, 2005, 17:04 GMT
Besides the History of the world is full of gay and lesbian people....

-Alexander the Great (Bi)
-Cleopatra (Bi)
-Hitler (probably gay)
-Louis the 15th
-Napoleon (might even have been a pedophile...)

Its never been an issue why make it one now???
Sander   Tuesday, March 01, 2005, 17:06 GMT
Ofcourse,

Pedophiles ARE an issue...they should be go to an institution to get better.
!   Tuesday, March 01, 2005, 17:14 GMT
Everybody heard of Marc Dutroux?
Terrible things he did with those girls...
Gay Odin   Tuesday, March 01, 2005, 17:18 GMT
Pedophiles means with children. Who's speaking about children?
Sander   Tuesday, March 01, 2005, 17:29 GMT
=>Everybody heard of Marc Dutroux?
Terrible things he did with those girls... <=

Ofcourse,wassn't he a wallonian?

=>Pedophiles means with children. Who's speaking about children?<=

I mentioned Pedophilles,some historians claim that Napoleon may have been a bit of a pedophille...but then again,250 years ago it was considderd normal when you married a 10 year old.
Jo   Tuesday, March 01, 2005, 21:29 GMT
Fredrik,

I very much liked your historical elaborations on the Normen. Thanks.
Damian   Tuesday, March 01, 2005, 22:59 GMT
England/Scotland has had it's share of gay monarchs. The most famous were Edward II (1284-1327) and James (James I of England but formerly James VI of Scotland).

James was the son of Mary, Queen of Scots, who was beheaded in 1587 by Queen Elizabeth I of England (the Virgin Queen, which was a misnomer if ever there was one! She actually put herself about a bit did that lady who maintained she had "the body of a weak and feeble woman but the heart of a lion"). She afterwards bitterly regretted putting Mary to death.

Edward I had two "favourites" during his reign (that's how they were termed at the time!) - Piers de Gaveston, who came from Gascony. He was ambushed one day in the depths of the Warwickshire countryside and put to the sword. Eddy then took up with Hugh Despenser, but later, for his "sins", was murdered in Berkeley Castle, near Gloucester, by means of a red hot poker thrust into him in a place best left to the imagination.

Didn't they lead colourful lives in those days?

The language connection here? French.
Fredrik from Norway   Tuesday, March 01, 2005, 23:00 GMT
Thanks for all positive responses, but I have never thought of Norwegian bears as gay! On the contrary, Norwegian folklore has a lot of tales of fair dairy maids in the mountains getting visits from bears... But the best weapon was to lift their skirts and flash their private parts! Then the bear would run away...(hey, maybe they are gay after all...? LOL!)

Was Louis 15. of France gay? Wasn't that the guy who enjoyed the pleasures of madame Pompadour?
Damian   Tuesday, March 01, 2005, 23:01 GMT
Omission:

James I (VI of Scotland before Union) lived from 1566 to 1625.
Fredrik from Norway   Tuesday, March 01, 2005, 23:43 GMT
Good, gay king Jamie was married in Oslo to the sister of Christian IV. of Denmark-Norway, a great and potent womanizer!

But the two brothers-in-law are supposed to have gone on rather well. They conversed in Latin and exchanged some good stories (which the king's theater director listened in on... (e.g the story of poor Amled, prince of Denmark at Kronborg castle in Elsinore (Helsingør), built by Fredrik II, Jamie's father-in-law!
Gay Odin   Wednesday, March 02, 2005, 13:12 GMT
The most famous were Edward II (1284-1327) and James VI

Surely there must have been a few since then. If only Balmoral could speak.
Sander   Wednesday, March 02, 2005, 13:25 GMT
=>Was Louis 15. of France gay?<=

Rather bisexual....there are unverfied reports of servants of versaille,who claim to have witnessed a number of wild bisexual orgies going on in the palace...
Gay Odin   Wednesday, March 02, 2005, 16:35 GMT
They must have been "voyeurs". After all, it's a French word. Let's hope the only thing they did was to look.
Sander   Wednesday, March 02, 2005, 16:56 GMT
Back to the topic,

!,(and all the others)

Can you tell me if this is Old English or Old Dutch ?
(I already know the anser,but ill let you try...)

-The Old ... text.

Egidus, waer bestu bleven?
Mi lanct na di,gheselle mijn!
Du coors die doot,du liets mi tleven.
Dat was gheselscap goed ende fijn.
Het sceen teen moeste ghestorven sijn!
Nu best du in den troon verheven,
Claerre dan der zonnen scijn,
Alle vruecht es di ghegheven.

-Modern Dutch translation.

Egidus,waar ben je gebleven?
Vriend ik verlang naar je.
Jij koos de dood en liet mij leven.
Dat was plezierig gezelschap.
Waren we maar gelijk gestorven.
Nu ben jij in de hemel,
helderder dan de zonneschijn,
alle vreugd is je gegeven.


-This was a poem for a lover who past away.
!   Wednesday, March 02, 2005, 17:20 GMT
Sander,

That text is without doubt Dutch :)
Am I right ?