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Why Learn Portuguese?
ha ha ha
My life changed after encountering Amazon (lol). It's like in those adds to get slimmer "before" and "after". ha ha ha
Joao you are a smart guy, believe me, I'm not kidding, but you ought to deepen your knowledge of phonetics, grammar and syntax, so you could realize that Continental and Brazilian Portuguese are not so similar
They are similar. It's just another variant of the Portuguese language. Azorean portuguese is very different phonetically compared to EUPT and BRPT but once you get used to it you have no problem understanding it. All this does is enrich the language and make it more interesting.
«Joao you are a smart guy, believe me, I'm not kidding, but you ought to deepen your knowledge of phonetics, grammar and syntax, so you could realize that Continental and Brazilian Portuguese are not so similar»
The phonetics are different in the same manner as many other languages. American English and Standard British English have very different phonetics as well. Scotish English has different phonetics as well. Dutch from the Netherlands and Dutch from Belgium (Flemish) have very different phonetics. Belgian French, French French and Canadian French are different. According to your point of view, these are then diferent languages. The differences in syntax between BR PT and EU PT are minor. In many cases those variants can be used in both languages, yet Brazilians use one manner while the Portuguese use the other. There are variations inside the tiny Portugal: Northern Portuguese, Southern Portuguese, Lisbon's Portuguese, Azorean Portuguese, Madeiran Portuguese, etc There are sharp variations in accent. Yet, it's one language. Those who say that Brazilians speak a different language from Portuguese are not Portuguese speakers. They listen to the sounds without understanding the meaning and think it's a different language. It is the same as saying that Portuguese and Russian are simmilar languages, or Spanish and Greek are simmilar. They are not.
I have been studying Portuguese for many years I have been to Portugal three times and I can say that the two varieties of Portuguese are quite different, much more than British and American English or American and European Spanish. That's a fact. They often sound completely different phonetically, to say nothing of grammar and vocabulary. I've studied linguistics deeply and I know what I'm talking about.
I have been studying Portuguese for many years I have been to Portugal three times and I can say that the two varieties of Portuguese are not really different, not much more than British and American English or American and European Spanish. That's a fact. They may often sound completely different phonetically, but there's not much to say about grammar and vocabulary. I've studied linguistics deeply and I know what I'm talking about.
Here's a song in dialect:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMoCeYO6kKE O Pidido Já qui tu vai lá prá fêra Traga di lá para mim Água da fulô qui chêra Um nuvelo e um carrin Trais um pacote de misse Meu amigo ah se tu visse Aquele cego cantadô! Um dia ele me disse Jogano um mote de amô Qui eu havéra de vivê Pur esse mundo E morrê ainda em flô Passa naquela barraca Daquela mulé reizêra Onde almuçamo paca Panelada e frigidêra Inté você disse vã lõa Gabano a boia bôa Qui das casas da cidade Aquela era a primêra Trais pra mim uãs brividade Qui eu quero matá a sôdade Fais tempo qui fui na fêra Ai sôdade... Apois sim vê se num isquece Quinda nessa lua chêa Nós vai brincá na quermesse Lá no Riacho d'Arêa Na casa daquêle home Feiticêro e curadô Qui o dia intêro é home Fiiho de Nosso Sinhô Mais dispois da mêa noite É lubisome cumedô Dos pagão qui as mãe isqueceu Do batismo salvadô E tem mais dois garrafão Cum dois canguin responsadô Apois sim vê se num isquece De trazê ruge e carmim Ah se o dinheiro desse! Eu queria um tracilin E mais treis metro de chita Qui é preu fazê um vistido E ficá bem mais bunita Qui Madô de Juca Dido Qui Zefa de Iô Joaquim Já qui tu vai lá prá fêra Meu amigo trais Essas coisinhas para mim...
Another one
Samba do Arnesto O Arnesto nos convidô prum samba, ele mora no Brás Nós fumos não encontremos ninguém Nós vortemos com uma baita de uma reiva Da outra vez nós num vai mais Nós num semo tatu! Notro dia encontremo co Arnesto Que pediu descurpas mais nós não aceitemos Isso não se faz, Arnesto, nós não se importa Mas você devia ter ponhado um recado na porta Um recado assim ói: "Ói, turma, num deu pra esperá Aduvido que isso, num faz mar, num tem importância, Assinado em cuspo porque não sei escrever" Arnesto
Ahí viene um colombiano pelado y tarado com su saco en la mano, comiendo porras y corriendo para agarrar la buseta.
I agree; brazilian and portuguese portuguese sounds different (personally I prefer the original one) but the written language does not differ so much; and every average educated people who knows the language can switch easily from one to the other (or at least understand it and make himself understood).
«I have been studying Portuguese for many years I have been to Portugal three times and I can say that the two varieties of Portuguese are quite different, much more than British and American English or American and European Spanish. That's a fact. They often sound completely different phonetically, to say nothing of grammar and vocabulary. I've studied linguistics deeply and I know what I'm talking about.»
BS You are a cheating troll. It's not true if compared to the different dialects of English. There are differences but it's not completely different. I think you do not speak anything of Portuguese apart from "para mim", aka "to me"
Luca, the written language is the same, apart from different words and some insigificant syntax differences.
The pronunciation is different in many aspects, just like the different dialects of several languages spread all over the world. |