Spanish vs French

Gringo   Sat Jan 23, 2010 7:05 pm GMT
Gringo   Sat Jan 23, 2010 7:33 pm GMT
Spanish Humiliation   Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:53 am GMT
Let us face it. The Spanish language is one among the most spoken worldwide but it suffers a humiliating position everywhere.

- Greatest Hispanic power is Mexico: enough said!
- In South America it's more and more obscured by Brazilian Potuguese. Alright, Brazil is first of all a third world nation, but large enough to encapsulate a highly developed core with financial power and technology capability, something no Spanish country will ever boast.
- In Europe, Spanish culture is nothing in front of Italy, let alone Germany, France or England. Spanish is just as relevant and influential as Dutch or Polish.
- In Spain, Spanish is humiliated by Catalan, whereby Iberia's most developed part is steadily ousting Spanish from everyday life. Within decades Spanish is going to be a foreign language amongst others there.

To put it simply, here we have a world language that makes itself irrelevant wherever it's spoken.
embrasser   Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:58 am GMT
Spanish language is even uglier than an african dialect.
in my country spanish is always regarded as a cheesy language.
like the culture of latin people,they are very cheesy, after all.

les Espagnols ne passera jamais les Français

vive la france!
La cara del español   Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:04 am GMT
<<Spanish language is even uglier than an african dialect.
in my country spanish is always regarded as a cheesy language.
like the culture of latin people,they are very cheesy, after all. >>



I agree. When you think of Spanish all that comes to mind is this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edRYBPF3Aj0
Hispanic power   Sun Jan 24, 2010 10:53 am GMT
<<Greatest Hispanic power is Mexico: enough said!>>

No, stupid. The Hispanic power is ALL the speakers of this language. If you calculate the GDP of the 450 million of Spanish speakers as mother tongue (including 50 million in the United States and Puerto Rico) is bigger than the GDP of any country, but USA.

<<In South America it's more and more obscured by Brazilian Potuguese. Alright, Brazil is first of all a third world nation, but large enough to encapsulate a highly developed core with financial power and technology capability, something no Spanish country will ever boast.>>

No, asshole. In Brazil people study Spanish. It is obviously easier than the Brazilian school system add Spanish as subject than 20 Hispanic countries add Brazilian Portuguese. Besides, the phonetic of Spanish is easier than the phonetic of Portuguese.

<< In Europe, Spanish culture is nothing in front of Italy, let alone Germany, France or England. Spanish is just as relevant and influential as Dutch or Polish.>>

I don't know the Spanish culture, Froggy, but the Spanish language is the second most studied in countries like UK, Germany or France as you know...

<< In Spain, Spanish is humiliated by Catalan, whereby Iberia's most developed part is steadily ousting Spanish from everyday life. Within decades Spanish is going to be a foreign language amongst others there>>

Sorry my dumb mate, but in the Autonomous Community of Catalonia the most spoken language as mother tongue is Spanish and not Catalan.


In short, Spanish is a language spoken by over 500 million people around the World, and very spoken in 3 continents: European Union, North America and South America.

Finally, according to all experts in languages, Spanish, English and Chinese are the languages of the XXI century, and not French. Sorry, mon ami.
Francophone power   Sun Jan 24, 2010 11:52 am GMT
<< No, stupid. The Hispanic power is ALL the speakers of this language. If you calculate the GDP of the 450 million of Spanish speakers as mother tongue (including 50 million in the United States and Puerto Rico) is bigger than the GDP of any country, but USA. >>

Wrong, idiot. The Francophone power is ALL the speakers of this language. If you calculate the export of the 500 million of French speakers as is bigger than the export of any country, but USA.

<< No, asshole. In Brazil people study Spanish. It is obviously easier than the Brazilian school system add Spanish as subject than 20 Hispanic countries add Brazilian Portuguese. Besides, the phonetic of Spanish is easier than the phonetic of Portuguese.>>

Wrong, stinking and rotting shit. In Brazil people study French. It is obviously easier for the Brazilian school system to retain French as subject than for the 33 Francophone countries to add Brazilian Portuguese. Besides, the grammar of French is easier than the grammar of Portuguese.

<< I don't know the Spanish culture, Froggy, but the Spanish language is the second most studied in countries like UK, Germany or France as you know... >>

I know the French culture, Fly, but the French language is the second most studied in countries like Germany as you know.....

Fremdsprachenunterricht in Deutschland

Bis in die neunziger Jahre wurde die erste Fremdsprache (überwiegend Englisch) in deutschen Schulen ab der fünften Klasse, also nach Abschluss der Grundschule unterrichtet. Lediglich das Saarland bot ab der dritten Klasse Französisch-Unterricht an. Dies hat sich jedoch 1998/99 geändert, als mit der Einführung des Englisch-Unterrichts ab der dritten Klasse in Hamburg begonnen wurde. Ab dem Schuljahr 2004/2005 wird nun auch flächendeckend Englischunterricht in allen deutschen Bundesländern angeboten, in 9 von 16 Bundesländern Französisch und Italienisch und Russisch in Thüringen. In Baden-Württemberg ist der Englisch-Unterricht bereits ab der ersten Klasse Pflicht.

Teaching Languages in Germany

Until the nineties, English was mainly the first foreign language in German schools from the fifth grade up to say after completion of primary school. Only in Saar offered from the third grade of French lesson. However, this has changed in 1998/99, when it was started to introduce the teaching of English from the third class in Hamburg. From school year 2004/2005 is now also teaching English is now offered covering all German federal states, in 9 out of 16 federal states, French and Italian are taught and Russian in Thuringia. In Baden-Wuerttemberg the teaching of English is already the first grade requirement.

http://wiki.zum.de/Fremdsprachenunterricht

Spanish wasn't even mentioned in this German language encyclopedia.

<< Sorry my dumb mate, but in the Autonomous Community of Catalonia the most spoken language as mother tongue is Spanish and not Catalan. >>

Sorry my dull mate, but in the Autonomous Community of Catalonia the most spoken language as mother tongue is Catalan and not Castilian.

A majority (52.6%) use Catalan with their children (compared to 42.3% for Spanish). This can be attributed to some Spanish-speaking citizens shifting from their mother tongue to Catalan at home.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Catalonia

<< In short, Spanish is a language spoken by over 500 million people around the World, and very spoken in 3 continents: European Union, North America and South America. >>

In short, French is a language spoken by over 700 million people around the World, and very spoken in all continents: Europe, North and South America, Africa, Asia, Oceania, and even Antarctica.

<< Finally, according to all experts in languages, Spanish, English and Chinese are the languages of the XXI century, and not French. Sorry, mon ami. >>

Finally, according to all experts in languages, English and French are the only TRUE GLOBAL LANGUAGES of the XXI century and will remain so for many centuries, and while Spanish and Chinese was/is not and will never be. Sorry, mi amigo.
French   Sun Jan 24, 2010 11:54 am GMT
Don't the French feel ashamed of the fact that the poorest countries in America and in Africa are French speaking?.
-Sp-   Sun Jan 24, 2010 11:55 am GMT
<< - In Spain, Spanish is humiliated by Catalan, whereby Iberia's most developed part is steadily ousting Spanish from everyday life. Within decades Spanish is going to be a foreign language amongst others there. >>

Very true. Here's the proof.

A majority (52.6%) use Catalan with their children (compared to 42.3% for Spanish). This can be attributed to some Spanish-speaking citizens shifting from their mother tongue to Catalan at home.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Catalonia

Native Castilian Spanish speakers switch to Catalan the moment they reside in Catalonia.
Jordi   Sun Jan 24, 2010 11:57 am GMT
A majority (80.6%) use Spanish with their children (compared to 19.4% for Spanish). This can be attributed to some Catalan-speaking citizens shifting from their mother tongue to Spanish at home.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Catalonia
+Ca+ vs -Sp-   Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:36 pm GMT
<< A majority (80.6%) use Spanish with their children (compared to 19.4% for Spanish). This can be attributed to some Catalan-speaking citizens shifting from their mother tongue to Spanish at home.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Catalonia >>

Nice try Jordi, for changing the content of the article but this time the hispanics failed. The custodians or watchers of that article restored it to its original text as shown below.

A majority (52.6%) use Catalan with their children (compared to 42.3% for Spanish). This can be attributed to some Spanish-speaking citizens shifting from their mother tongue to Catalan at home.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Catalonia
Red Echelon   Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:49 pm GMT
SP,¿en qué Mundo vives tú,pringao?.

Cataluña isn't the most developed region in Spain:

DGP per cápita(Spain media=100)
´
Álava 145%(fiscal paradise and only 0'3 million people)
Madrid 136%(8'3 million people in conurbation)
Guipúzcoa 134%(fiscal paradise and only 0'9 million people)
Vizcaya 130%(fiscal paradise and only 1'1 million people)
Gerona(little part of Cataluña,only 0'7 M.) 120%
La Rioja 118%
Zaragoza 117%
Tarragona(little part of Cataluña,0'8 M) 116%
Valladolid 116%
Soria 116%
Barcelona(MAIN PART OF CATALUÑA, 5'4 M.) 115%
Castellón 115%
Lérida(little part of Cataluña,0'4 M.) 115%.

An Catalán in Cataluña is much more less spoken than French in Quebec. Now in the scools in Cataluña are criminal with children because they don't want speak in Catalán. That is nazism, but children always speak Spanish(70% of them).
Red Echelon   Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:51 pm GMT
Catalán in Cataluña is much more less spoken than French in Quebec, WANT TO SAY.
per-plessità   Sun Jan 24, 2010 3:45 pm GMT
"much more less spoken than"

if you can't use English choose another language, thanx
Franco   Sun Jan 24, 2010 3:59 pm GMT
No way, if someone has to butcher any language, that is English. It's the downside of being a lingua franca.