Catalan and Occitan

Miquel   Monday, April 26, 2004, 14:39 GMT

Well, here I go, finally, in english. I apologize for my ugly english. But you understand, do you not?
vincent   Monday, April 26, 2004, 15:23 GMT
in the ialian valleys of the alps they speak a form of vivaro-alpin.But all these dialectal dialectal divisions are once more very subjective.I come from an area (east of Haute-Loire) where linguists say we speak vivaro-alpin.But our dialect is very close to the auvergnat too.So there's no clear frontiers.Moreover, historically the Velay (historical region of Haute-Loire) has more to do with Auvergne and Ard├Ęche than with the Alps.Nowadays it is the region Auvergne officially.We should elaborate a standard form of auvergnat occitan like the Araneses did.
mjd   Monday, April 26, 2004, 18:09 GMT
Galician-Portuguese pretty much retains the spelling of Old Portuguese.