Is Schedule to be pronounced as Skedool or as shedool

On Quest   Monday, January 31, 2005, 15:59 GMT
or is to something else altogether?
Elaine   Monday, January 31, 2005, 16:42 GMT
AmE - [skedZ..l]
BrE - [SedZ..l]
..   Tuesday, February 01, 2005, 01:22 GMT
ske jewel
...   Tuesday, February 01, 2005, 02:42 GMT
shed yule
Bill   Tuesday, February 01, 2005, 05:29 GMT
What native English speaker says "ske jewel" or "shed yule"? The last syllable is unaccented, thereby turning the "u" into a schwa.
..   Tuesday, February 01, 2005, 05:59 GMT
A North American English speaker does.
Jim   Tuesday, February 01, 2005, 06:39 GMT
http://www.dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?dict=CALD&key=70272&ph=on

says

/Sed-ju:l/ US /sked-ju:l/

but I say

/SedZu(:)l/

Where /u(:)/ is a short /u:/ (I don't think the Camb. Dic. makes this distinction.)
Whyj   Tuesday, February 01, 2005, 06:42 GMT
You have a lisp, do you, Jim?
Jim   Tuesday, February 01, 2005, 06:56 GMT
Who said anything about having a lisp? If I'd said I pronounce the word as /thkedZu(:)/, then you're post would have made sense.

Definition
lisp (SPEECH)
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verb [I]
to pronounce 's' and 'z' sounds like 'th'

lisp
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noun [C]
I was teased a lot at school because I spoke with a lisp.

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Jim   Tuesday, February 01, 2005, 06:59 GMT
"... your post ..." not "... you're post ..."
Brennus   Tuesday, February 01, 2005, 07:21 GMT

Schedule is artificial pronunciation. I've heard that not even all British and Canadians pronounce it that way.
Brennus   Tuesday, February 01, 2005, 07:23 GMT
Schedule pronounced shed-jool that is.
Jim   Tuesday, February 01, 2005, 07:24 GMT
How so?
Jim   Tuesday, February 01, 2005, 07:31 GMT
SCHEDULE, originally a written strip or leaf of paper or parchment, a label or ticket, especially when attached to another document, as explaining or adding to its contents, hence any additional detailed statement such as cannot conveniently be embodied iii the main statement. The word occurs first (14th century) as cedule, or sedule, representing the Fr. cedule (mod. cdule, cf. Ital. cedola, Ger. Zettel, &c.), which is derived from Late Lat. scedula or schedula, dim. of sceda, a written strip of parchment (late Gr. ~ probably from scindere, to cleave, cf. scind ala, a shingle. The original pronunciation in English was sedule, the modern pronunciation is shedule; American usage has gone back to the original Latin or Greek, and adopts skedule.

http://84.1911encyclopedia.org/S/SC/SCHEDULE.htm

ETYMOLOGY: Middle English sedule, slip of parchment or paper, note, from Old French cedule, from Late Latin schedula, diminutive of scheda, variant of Latin scida, papyrus strip, from Greek skhida, skhed; akin to perhaps akin to skhizein, to split.

http://www.bartleby.com/61/22/S0132200.html

Certainly /sk/ better reflects the Latin/Greek origin but /S/ is a product of natural evolution. Which is the more "artificial"?
..   Tuesday, February 01, 2005, 07:48 GMT
I can picture a caveman handing another caveman a lemming skin job description with a leaf schedule stapled to it.