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<<I say 'camera'/'manager' sounding out the short a (1st) like in 'tap' and 'America' w/ a short e as in 'ten' meanwhile others would say 'caemra', 'maenager' and 'Amearica much like I say 'baeth' only those people would say 'bath' w/ a short a.>>
Me too; I'm from the Philadelphia area. We use the "short a," which is technically referred to as the lax a, for polysyllabic words like camera and manager. Meanwhile monosyllabic words like "man" have the tense a.
America gets the "short e" because of the unmerged mary-merry-marry sounds, unlike most of the US.
We say harrible and farist, too. The New York and Philly accents have a lot of similarities, but they're still very different. Most obvious being that we're rhotic and they're not, and we have those distinctly fronted O's, while New Yorkers O's are backed. But it seems like most Americans can't tell the difference between the two (or even know what a Philly accent sounds like).
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<<>>The only accent that I know I have since people have told me is that I do say Cawfee (coffee), Tawk (talk), Baws (boss), etc..<<
I don't think those're particular to NJ at all, considering that we have all those pronunciations over here in southeastern Wisconsin, them being, to be exact (using X-SAMPA):
coffee : ["k_hOfi:]
talk : ["t_hOk]
boss : ["bOs] >>
I think what's particular about /O/ in NJ (really greater New York) is the extremeness of the sound, and can be heard by those with the strong accent as "cwaffee." (I won't attempt to do x-sampa). Is this called an upglide? I think so.
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Well, I guess that would more accurately be "kwawfee" using a faux-phonetic spelling.
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I know what you are talking about w/ 'kwawfee' and that is how people say it w/ a heavy NY/long island accent. I don't know anyone w/ a supposed Jersey accent that says the word like that. I recognize it on others which means that I am def. not saying it to that extreme. I just go w/ 'cawfee.'
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Hello I am from Toms River New Jersey... here is a few examples...
Orange:"Are-range"
Vanilla: "Va-nella"
Because: "Be-Caws"
Talk: "Tawk"
Dog: "Dowg"
Coffee:"Cawfee"
But not everybody "tawks"s the same.
put w's in words like song, talk, walk, dog, coffee,
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Just to clear this up no one from New Jersey, says Joizee !
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And where are you from Cee ? Why are you on an New Jersey accent forum if you can not stand it?
Do me a favor don't come no where near the east coast.
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I'm from Bergen County, and even though most people say the strong accent comes from South Jersey. I say harrible (horrible) farin (foreign) farist (forest) arange (orange) and drAer (drawer).
I guess it depends on the person. Because Jersey can be known for its open A pronunciations
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"Do me a favor don't come no where near the east coast. "
I don't like double negatives. They are horrible.
In this sentence you are telling them that they SHOULD go near the East Coast.
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Your use of full stops and other grammar is also sadly lacking.
Is it true that kids are most interested in learning baseball and cheerleading in American schools rather than proper subjects such as what we call in Britain "the three Rs" - reading, 'riting and 'rythmetic'?
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>> Is it true that kids are most interested in learning baseball and cheerleading in American schools rather than proper subjects such as what we call in Britain "the three Rs" - reading, 'riting and 'rythmetic'? <<
In America they've been replaced by eading (eating), hiding, and rhythmics.
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A lot of these accents are just stereotypes created by the cinema.
"I live in new jersey and no one says joisey. I dont know where people get that from. There is an accent but its nothing like that."
Heh, I think that's something we New Yorkers may have started in our ever ending war with you guys ;)
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<<Is it true that kids are most interested in learning baseball and cheerleading in American schools rather than proper subjects such as what we call in Britain "the three Rs" - reading, 'riting and 'rythmetic'? >>
Rhythmic arithmetics?
From what I saw in England, most Poms are interested in becoming "chavs" or ea'ing (eating) to become the fat parent of a "chav".
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"I live in new jersey and no one says joisey. I dont know where people get that from. There is an accent but its nothing like that. <<
From Wikipedia:
The General American [3`] and [OI] : In the most old-fashioned and extreme New York–area accents, the vowel sounds of words like girl and of words like oil both become a diphthong [3I]. This is often misperceived by speakers of other accents as a "reversal" of the "er" and "oy" sounds, so that girl is pronounced "goil" and oil is pronounced "erl"; this leads to the caricature of New Yorkers saying things like "Joizey" and "terlet". This particular speech pattern is no longer very prevalent; the character Archie Bunker was a good example of a speaker who had this feature. Younger New Yorkers (born since about 1950) are likely to use a rhotic [3`] in bird even if they use nonrhotic pronunciations of beard, bared, bard, board, boor, and butter. Similarly, the line-loin merger is sporadically heard in New York.
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I was born and raised (and still reside) about 40 minutes from orlando. I pronounce Florida, orange, forest and horrible with the AR sound, but pronouce moral and coral with a stronger O sound.
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