what makes English Germanic?

Yes but...   Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:49 pm GMT
It isn't
GUEST   Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:40 pm GMT
<<Why do you keep doing that?. Is that all you do? How many French words are in what I just said? >>

0 French words.
19 Anglo-Saxon (including duplicate instances)
1 Old Norse
1 Latin
Guest   Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:21 pm GMT
" "French" words do not exist at all, French vocabulary and grammar is mostly of Latin, Germanic and Greek origin. "


Germanic origin ? over 10 000 usual french words, 400 are of Germanic origins - that is to say about 4%... Hard to tell that germanic represent one of the foundations of the french vocabulary...
guest   Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:52 pm GMT
Germanic elements DO form an important base in French: both words and constructions.

For instance, common Germanic French words: riche, regarder, garage, baggage, blesser, garcon (boy/waiter), joli, boulevard, attacher, debut, marcher, etiqette, tricoter, marsouin, marais, frais, blanc, bleu, brun, gris, fauteuil, macon (mason), bouquin, jardin, savon, bord, nord, sud, est, ouest, engager, choisir, etc.

Contructions such as the passe compose in French are Germanic (have verb + past participle)

and phonemes:
"ai" (old French dipthong for Latin long 'a')
"oi" (old/Middle French for 'ei')
etc are alterations due to the Germanic speech patterns of the Frankish ruling class
Guest   Wed Apr 18, 2007 6:07 pm GMT
elements like

-ard
-on (ballon, balcon, faucon, baron)
-esque

mes-/me- (mis-)
g-/gu- (Grm w-)
oh yeah   Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:56 pm GMT
Germanic elements DO form an important base in French: both words and constructions.


YES! And pigs fly
Guest   Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:16 pm GMT
"je speede un max sur mon scooter pour faire du shopping le weekend "

isn't it a proof ? French is almost half Germanic... it sounds similar to English... no ?
On the other hand English is 70% latin ! English is more Romance than French, and culturally and ethnitically the French are descendants of the Germans... and are their neighbours and economic partners. French are Germanic of course, but they would like to be latin...
Visitor   Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:32 pm GMT
<<isn't it a proof ? French is almost half Germanic... it sounds similar to English... no ?
On the other hand English is 70% latin ! English is more Romance than French, and culturally and ethnitically the French are descendants of the Germans... and are their neighbours and economic partners. French are Germanic of course, but they would like to be latin... >>

English is 70% Latin?? MAybe the number of terms including scientific and rarely used

The French themselves acknowledge descent from Latin, Germanic & Celtic.

French language is really germanicised Latin, which is why it is so unique among its romance brethren.

and YES! Pigs do fly : )
????   Thu Apr 19, 2007 1:18 am GMT
je speede un max sur mon scooter pour faire du shopping le weekend
isn't it a proof ? French is almost half Germanic... it sounds similar to English... no ?

BUAHAHAH AHAHAH!!!
At least that is the proof you have to stop with spirits!!!!
Io speedo un max sul mio scooter per fare dello shopping il weekend
VOILA! And italian is almost half Germanic too!!!!
And also spanish, and Portoguese, and greek... so simple: take a bunch of English words common in EVERY language and change articles and conjuntions...What a proof!
I do not want to point out also that scooter, shopping and weeken are rarely udsed in French due to the allergy of French for every english word.

English is more Romance than French

what???!!

and culturally and ethnitically the French are descendants of the Germans...

WHATTT?????!!!!!
Yes, and we are all descendants of aliens!!!
STOP DRINKING!!

French are Germanic of course, but they would like to be latin...

I hope for you that you have a prime grade education otherwise your condition is desperate.
... and change pusher
Spyo   Thu Apr 19, 2007 1:25 am GMT
WOW

English is so german that it can have 70% Latin words and still be a german language!

that's tough!

HAIL ENGLISH!
Spyo   Thu Apr 19, 2007 1:51 am GMT
Here you go, I removed all the GERMANIC words and elements. Makes a lot of sense now. THIS IS WHY ENGLISH IS GERMANIC

↔ Letter- ↔ ↔ ↔ : ↔-↔
↔ ↔-↔ LANGUAGE

↔ ↔ Honorable ↔ . Evelyn ↔, M.P., Monticello, November ↔ , ↔

[Paragraph ↔ ]

↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ pleasure, ↔ ↔ taste ↔ reviv- ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ recovery ↔ ↔ ↔-↔ dialect ↔ ↔ language; ↔ ↔ mere dialect ↔ ↔, ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ , ↔ ↔ , ↔ , ↔ , ↔ , ↔ , ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ antiquat-. ↔ ↔-↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ possess ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ mutation ↔ ↔ ↔language ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔modern form. Vocabulari- ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ stage- ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ , ↔ ↔ grammar- ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔. ↔ grammar ↔ chang- ↔ ↔, ↔ ↔ descent ↔ ↔ ↔, ↔ ↔ present form, ↔ ↔ ↔ observation suffic- ↔ ↔ ↔ variation-. ↔ ↔ ↔ indebt- ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ preserv- ↔ ↔-↔ form, ↔ Doctor ↔ ↔ ↔ Mr. ↔ . ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ public ↔ ↔ possess ↔ ↔ press, ↔ dialect ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ irrecoverab- ↔. ↔ ↔ ↔, ↔, ↔ -fortune ↔ ↔ ↔ endeavor- ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ form, ↔ mount ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ Greek ↔ Latin, ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ gender-, number-, case-, declension-, conjugation-, ↔c. ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ embarrassment-, vest ↔ ↔ ↔ Roman type ↔ ↔ ↔ adopt- ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ letter, reform ↔ ↔ orthography, ↔ assimilate ↔ pronunciation, ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔, ↔ ↔ present ↔, just ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔, ↔ ↔ ↔ contemporary vocabulary ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔, ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔. ↔ example, ↔ ↔-↔ text ↔ ↔ ↔ prayer, ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ Matthew, ix., ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔, ↔ ↔ equivalent Roman type: "↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔, ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔. ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔.↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔. ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔. ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔. ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔, ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔. ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔, ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔'. ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ pronounce ↔: ↔ ↔, ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ . ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ . ↔ ↔ ↔ . ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ . ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ . ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ . ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ . ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ , ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ '. ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ observ- ↔-↔-↔ , ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ single ↔ "temptation" ↔ ↔ present version ↔ ↔ prayer ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ -↔ ; ↔ ↔ ↔ "trespass-" ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ , ({ofeilemata} ↔ ↔ original) ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ ↔ translat- ↔ ↔ ↔-↔"↔." Letter- ↔ ↔ ↔: ↔ -↔
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Spyo   Thu Apr 19, 2007 1:55 am GMT
I missed one element which cannot be removed which is ADJECTIVE BEFORE NOUN--even on non-german words (eg. "modern form"; "equivalent Roman type")
greg   Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:51 am GMT
Spyo : « Here you go, I ↔ all the ↔ words and ↔. Makes a lot of ↔ now. THIS IS WHY ENGLISH IS ↔. »

Ne te fatigue pas pour si peu : tout le monde sait que l'anglais est une langue germanique dont le vocabulaire est majoritairement francolatin.
Guest   Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:58 am GMT
<<Ne te fatigue pas pour si peu : tout le monde sait que l'anglais est une langue germanique dont le vocabulaire est majoritairement francolatin. >>

Ah, but do you mean mainly Franco-Latin in numbers or mainly Franco-Latin in actual usage?
Guest   Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:00 am GMT
<<Here you go, I removed all the GERMANIC words and elements. Makes a lot of sense now. THIS IS WHY ENGLISH IS GERMANIC >>

Done in reverse. I like it.