spanish,french, english

Guest   Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:10 am GMT
" The english language is a difficult language to understand thoroughly.it's hard enough to pick up enough to get by on.so many words that look the same yet used in differing circumstances with or without enhancement have different meanings.That apart the English language is made up of Anglo Saxon french and germanic words as well.I know my english history and my native english language is made up of these two languages.It might not take too long to pick up basic english but to fully undertsand would take a long time depending on the level you want to aim for,and i can teach it.As many as 2 - 3 words in english are french related a smaller percent germanic and the rest is pure invention between the two.Good luck all you who try. "


Paul, English is not "made of these two languages" (french and german)
English is basially a germanic language wich just happened to have borowded some french words in its most technical and specific lexic. Most English words of french origins are rarely used, used as false friends, used as intellectual lexical or to give a more "intellectual" feeling (words that already exist in Anglo-saxon vocabulary).
Most words of french origins have being germanized in their writing and their spelling, and all of them are tranformed to follow the English grammar of germanic origin.
the number of 2/3 english words of french origins will fall dramatically around 15% in the street language of everyday.
As a french speaker, english language is for me a very exotic language.
Guest   Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:06 pm GMT
Guest,

Really, what about village, déjà vu, cul de sac, Madame, "Excuse"-me, table, cigarette...

Don't say rubbish please.
Guest   Tue Oct 25, 2005 9:43 pm GMT
We could give you French words borrowded from Japanese, that doesn't make French a half Japanese language. And that doesn't make French a familiar language for Japanese people either.

Tatami, Judo, Sushi, Tsunami, Kamikaze, Kimono, Samourai, geisha, Karaoke, Karateka, judoka, Shogun, Bonsai, Sake, Hara-Kiri, Kaki, Futon, Mikado, Surimi, Sumo, Aikido, manga, etc.


Yes there is english words coming from French, that doesn't make English a close language to our.
Guest   Tue Oct 25, 2005 9:52 pm GMT
Dans un karaoke j'ai vu un Sumo qui mangait des sushis, des sachimis et des mikados au surimi en dessert. C'etait un kamikaze aimant les bonzais. allongé dans son futon avec une geisha il lisait des mangas en kimono, sirotant du sake. En bon samourai, quand il vit le tsunami arriver il prefera se faire hara-kiri.


Yes, french is a half japanese, half latin language !
Guest   Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:32 am GMT
what about village, déjà vu, cul de sac, Madame, "Excuse"-me, table, cigarette...

these are french words. maybe used in English but still french: these are the english ones :

village = town
cul-de sac = dead end
Madame = Mrs
Excuse = sorry

every language borrows words from others, it is not an english speciality.

in french we say : week-end, internet, Email, Web, windows, hits, news, freestyle, wakeboard, leader, shopping, cross, master, ride, star, king, best of, parking, management, skate, surf, fun, cool, roller, miss, etc. That doesn't make french an anglo-saxon language.
Georges   Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:13 am GMT
"Village" isn't always synonymous of "town". A town can be as big as a city or as small as a village. A town can also be a urban area that is inclusive of cities.

"Madam" is used to adress a woman whose name you don't know. If her name is known you call her "Mrs", followed by her name. In French "Madame" can be used alone or along with her name, n'est-ce pas Madame Meunier ?
Guest   Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:57 am GMT
i"n french we say : week-end, internet, Email, Web, windows, hits, news, freestyle, wakeboard, leader, shopping, cross, master, ride, star, king, best of, parking, management, skate, surf, fun, cool, roller, miss, etc. That doesn't make french an anglo-saxon language""


non, mais ça fait parti du vocabulaire français, sauf quelques uns un peu douteux : windows (informatique) mais personne n'ouvre une windows en France,
Guest   Wed Oct 26, 2005 2:32 pm GMT
Si, à chaque fois que j'allume mon ordinateur, j'ouvre automatiquement mon windows.
Guest   Wed Oct 26, 2005 2:42 pm GMT
Ce week-end, sur internet, j'ai ouvert windows pour faire du shopping online, j'ai acheté un compact disc d'une big star et des rollers de freestyle. Ensuite j'ai speedé avec mon sccoter et j'ai demandé un menu best of au drive du Mc Do. sur le parking, une miss super cool en jean m'a demandé des news de Bob, le leader de mon groupe de rock.
Séb   Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:04 pm GMT
On ne peut pas considérer des marques comme Windows, Mc Donald's ou Menu Best Of comme des mots Français.

Par ailleurs, "CD" et "nouvelles" sont beaucoup plus couramment utilisé que "compact disc" et "news". Si ça t'intéresse, tu pourras aussi constater sur Google que "achat en ligne" est largement plus fréquent que "achat online" ou même "achat on line".

Enfin, à ma connaissance "king" n'est pas un anglicisme courant en français.
macenzie likkrie   Mon Jan 02, 2006 4:21 pm GMT
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Sergej   Mon Jan 02, 2006 5:10 pm GMT
ATM I prefer English because of its popularity among Europeans.
IMO Spanish is more important in Latin America (and, certainly, in Spain :))
French is popular... uh, mb in some African countries :) (I'm not sure)
Guest   Mon Jan 02, 2006 5:18 pm GMT
" ATM I prefer English because of its popularity among Europeans "


Among what Europeans English is popular ??!!
Guest   Mon Jan 02, 2006 7:08 pm GMT
It's popular among majority of Europeans. E.g. which language are you speaking now? :)

There is no language which is more popular in Europe than English. Can you name something?

In Sweden, BG, Serbia, Poland, RF, Romania, Finland and other countries it's a primary foreign language.

ATM in RF about 90-95% of students learn English.
E.g. in our group (RSU, Faculty of Higher Technologies; 1st year of study), there are 21 students. 19 ppl (90.5%) learn English, 1 learns French, 1 learns German.
Guest   Mon Jan 02, 2006 7:10 pm GMT
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ATM in RF about 90-95% of students learn English.
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sry, "ATM" is unnecessary here :)