The propa way to spel

Jim   Wednesday, April 28, 2004, 06:54 GMT
How about these?

prism
Nazism
creationism
vision
division
revision
treasure
pleasure
leisure
these
please
ease
pose
those
hose
use
fuse
muse
Bill   Saturday, May 01, 2004, 20:51 GMT
prism-prizum
Nazism-naatsizum
creationism-creashunizum
vision-vizhun
division-divizhun
revision-revizhun
treasure-trezher
pleasure-plezher
leisure-leezher
these-theze
please-pleaz
ease-eaz
pose-poze
those-thoze
hose-hoze
use-noun-use / verb-uze
fuse-fuze
muse-muze
Joe   Sunday, May 02, 2004, 00:37 GMT
How about these?

both-bothe
half-American-haf British-haaf
laugh-American-laf British-laaf
vase-American-vaiss Canadian-vaiz Elsewhere-vaaz
been-bin vs. been
dictionary-American-dikshunerry British-dickshunry
Smith   Sunday, May 02, 2004, 00:47 GMT
Joe suggests ''both-bothe''


A ''the'' at the end of a word makes it look like the ''th'' should be voiced. How about ''boath''?
Ingglish   Sunday, May 02, 2004, 00:55 GMT
Earlier in the thread ''choklit'' was suggested and Jim asked, Why not ''choclat''. Because it's [Tsa:klit] not [Tsa:kl@t]. I'm not sure what [Tsa:kl@t] is.
Joe   Sunday, May 02, 2004, 01:02 GMT
Quote-''TO MAKE A LONG VOWEL SHORT''

because-becuz
yeah-yeh
fortune-forchun
been-bin

Here we have Joe respelling what in traditional orthography are long vowels as short vowels. This may work for his accent but I use the long vowels that traditional orthography suggest. As I say [b..ko:s], [je..], [fo:tSu:n] and [bi:n] the original spellings are better for me. I say [b..k^z], [je], [fo:rtS..n] and [bin].
Thorn, eth, and ash   Sunday, May 02, 2004, 01:32 GMT
What if we replaced this ''a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h, i, j, k, l, m, n, o, p, q, r, s, t, u, v, w, x, y, z'' with this a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h, i, j, k, l, m, n, o, p, q, r, s, t, u, v, w, x, y, z, þ, ð, æ.

Suppose we brought back the letters thorn, eth and ash.

Letters and the sounds they make.

a-father, pasta
b-bad
c-cello, chime, chair become ''cello'', ''cime'' and ''cair''.
d-day, drive
e-bed
f-fire
g-good
h-hide
i-sit
j-jet
k-cat, cash, kit become ''kæt'', ''kæsh'' and ''kit''.
l-lick
m-man, mat
n-gnat, name
o-knock
p-pot, pan
q-glottal stop
r-red, really
s-stove
t-time
u-sub, tub
v-vent
w-wet
x-genre, measure, beige ''become'' ''xonra'', ''mexxer'' and ''beix''
y-yes, yet
z-zoo
þ-think, thin
ð-that, this, there
æ-cat, cap, bat, valley.

Here's how this sentence comes out.

''They are going to play the cello while in the chair and they saw the cat and five cents and measured that thing yesterday so they could fix it quickly.''

''ðey are going to play ðe cello while in ðe cair ænd ðey saw ðe kæt ænd five sents ænd mexxered ðæt þing yesterday so ðey kould fiks it kwikly.''

''latter'' would become ''læter''. The ''t'' would not need to be doubled because the letter ''ash'' is always pronounced [@].

This sentence.

"What my father told the court he had wanted was not to be caught with a quart of water in the cot of his daughter all hidden away in the cart of his brother."

Comes out as,

''What my faððer told ðe kourt he had wanted was not to be kaught with a kort (or "kwort") of water in ðe cot of his daughter all hidden away in ðe cart of his bruððer''.

What do you þink about ðis?
Thorn, eth, and ash   Sunday, May 02, 2004, 01:34 GMT
''cot'' and ''cart'' should be ''kot'' and ''kart''.
Willy   Sunday, May 02, 2004, 04:55 GMT
Wrong idea, Thorn, eth, and ash!

They're as they are, yet.
Bill   Sunday, May 02, 2004, 15:20 GMT
Betelgeuse-Beetuljoose
Pistol Star-Pistulstar

Why is "ul" better than "ol", "el", "al" and "le"? How about "-juse" or "juce" instead of "-joose"

How about ''Jooss''.

Are these better,

Beeteljooss
Pistul Star

Than

Beetuljoose
Pistulstar
Ghoti   Sunday, May 02, 2004, 15:23 GMT
How about these,

Betelgeuse-Beetlejuice
Pistol Star-Pistul-star
Steve   Monday, May 03, 2004, 02:23 GMT
Yeah, Americans pronounce ''been'' as [bin]. Check out the pronunciation listing for ''been'' in this dictionary http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=been .
Bill   Monday, May 03, 2004, 02:36 GMT
MISSING SYLLABLE

toward[s]-tord[s]
caramel-carmal

I pronounce "towards" (or "toward") as a two syllable word [t..wo:d(z)]. Also I pronounce the second "a" in "caramel" as [..]. I say [k@r..m.l] so the original spelling is better.

I pronounce ''towards'' and ''caramel'' as [to:rdz] and [ka:rm..l].
Bill   Monday, May 03, 2004, 02:38 GMT
Quote-''THE "O" WORDS

from-frum
of-uv
was-wuz
want-wunt
what-wut

''The vowel in these words is [o] not [^] for me so none of these work in my accent. Here's a better way of writing them for me.''

The vowel in these words is [^] not [a:] for me.

I pronounce them [fr^m], [^v], [w^z], [w^nt], and [w^t].
Bill   Monday, May 03, 2004, 02:43 GMT
Quote-YOU SAY TOMAYTO I SAY TOMAHTO

tomato-tomayto
new-noo
species-speeshies
pecan-pecaan
route-rout
twenty-twunty
realtor-reeluhter
phonetic-fanetic

''None of these work for me and here's why.

tomato = [t..ma:tOu]
new = [nju:]
species = [spi:si(:)z]
pecan = [pi:k@n]
route = [ru:t]
twenty = [twenti(:)]
realtor = [ri:..lt..]
phonetic = [fonetik]''

I pronounce them,

tomato = [t..meitOu]
new = [nu:]
species [spi:shi(:)z]
pecan = [p..ka:n]
route = [raut]
twenty = [tw^nti(:)]
realtor = [ri:l..t..r]
phonetic = [f..netik]