South African English

Elna   Saturday, May 14, 2005, 13:33 GMT
Andre
>Will watch major matches though, when SA plays countries like Australia, India, Pakistan, England or New Zealand. <

So you basically watch the games we loose, he? ;)) No, ceriously, cricket is actually an enjoyable sport. I only watch one-day's, but if the test is interesting, i'll watch that too. I'm not really a fan of rugby or soccer. I know, I know, big disappointment I am :)

Anyway, just had to say hi, but I'm going again.
Louis   Saturday, May 14, 2005, 17:55 GMT
Thanks for the information supplied! Shame about the 4 game suspension given to Graeme Smith though.

I'm not sure if it speaks volumes of S. Africa's rejeuvenation of fortunes or the Windies's decline, but the games so far have been going madly in favour of S. Africa.

And what a shame you don't play cricket, Andre! I wasn't very good in the sport myself and was always relegated to being a fielder near the boundary half the time. As you can imagine, that's not very exciting at the most amateur of level, particularly since you want to be scoring runs and not trying to catch a fly ball.

On another note, I read that the South African Cricket Board has assiduously promoted the game among the blacks by sponsoring cricket programmes in the townships. If that is the case, it's simply good news.

I wasn't old enough to remember the freak accident of Hansie Cronje. Did you guys remember the aeroplane crash? The match-fixing scandals that plagued him which eventually landed him a life ban? I'd be most curious to know what were your reactions and how you coped with his departure (both from the game and the terrestrial world).

I apologise for highjacking this thread shamelessly to satisfy my own selfish curiosity. Let normal business continue, please.
andre in south africa   Saturday, May 14, 2005, 19:08 GMT
Louis



The story of Hansie Cronje's suspension and his death were huge news here, as you can imagine. People had strong views and were very divided over whether he deserved to be suspended. His death was a great shock to all. Regardless of what he did, he was a great cricketer, and by all accounts a good person, though he had his faults. I think you'd be interested in taking a look at this site:

http://www.ananzi.co.za/today/hansie.html

>On another note, I read that the South African Cricket Board has assiduously promoted the game among the blacks by sponsoring cricket programmes in the townships. If that is the case, it's simply good news. <

Yes, it is true and their programme is quite successful

And believe it or not, I'm actually watching the SA/Windies game at the moment ;)
andre in south africa   Saturday, May 14, 2005, 19:11 GMT
BTW in which country do you live Louis?
Sander   Saturday, May 14, 2005, 19:33 GMT
200th post
andre in south africa   Saturday, May 14, 2005, 19:44 GMT
hehe well done sander! ;)
Sander   Saturday, May 14, 2005, 19:49 GMT
Yeah,since I tragically missed the 1000th post,Im going to take every ...th everywhere :)
andre in south africa   Saturday, May 14, 2005, 19:58 GMT
Well the 1000th is approaching on both the afrikaans and dutch threads... ;)
Sander   Saturday, May 14, 2005, 19:59 GMT
You can be too optimistic Andre.
andre in south africa   Saturday, May 14, 2005, 22:25 GMT
South African English.....

And yes, we hear this daily...


This is
the English as it is now spoken on television and radio. The recently
published New Suth Effrican Deekshunry defines these new weds. Here are some
extracts and examples of their usage in the official New Suth Effrican
lungwich:

Bad - you sleep on it in the badroom

Beds - birds

Beg - container, as in shopping beg, hand-beg, tog-beg

Ben - to set alight

Chealdren - our future is in their hands

Chetz - where worshippers go on Sundays

Cuds - you can play poker or rummy with them

Cut - a small donkey-drawn vehicle

Debben - city in KZN (Durban)

Deekshunry - where you find weds (dictionary)

Detty - opposite of clean

Die'llas - as in drug die'llas or wee-pon die'llas

Driva - holds the steering wheel of a teksi (driver - taxi)

Duck - very duck at night when the lights are all off

Ebben - you get ebben erriors and rural erriors (urban areas and rural areas)

Effrican - from the continent of Africa

Erriors - districts, e.g. ebbon erriors

Ewways - eg. SAA, Comair

Fems - companies, e.g., Anglo-American

Fest - the one before second and third

Fok - used with nifes

Fum - you can fum with ship or kettle (farm with sheep or cattle)

Fumma - he owns the fum

Guddin - where you grow kebbijees (garden - cabbage)

Geave - you MUST geave, I WILL take

Get - a hinged device in a fence

Hair - as opposed to heem (her - him)

Heppi - state of elatement, e.g. I'm so heppi - I just voted

Hiss - masculine form of hairs

Hubba - where sheeps dock (harbour - ships)

Itch - as in itch and avairy pesson

Jems - little bugs that give you the flu (germs)

Kah - what you drive around in

Kennel - ummy officer (had to think here *a in SA* - colonel)

Kebbijees - vegetable

Keptown - some think parliament doesn't belong there (Cape Town)

Kettegry - in a system of classification

Kipper - one who kips, as in goal kipper

Kleenix - where nesses weck (clinics - where nurses work)

Kot - where the judges sit (court)

Len - to acquire knowledge

Leeda - as in Arwa Leeda, the president (leader - our leader)

Lungwich - weds what are spokkin

Mick - those that will inherit the eth (meak - earth)

Miening - what is the miening of this attack?

Nesses - they weck in kleenix and hospitals

Pee pull - powa to da pee pull (people)

Peppa - one way to get the news (paper)

Pesson - one of pee pull

Phlegm - the benning top of a kendal (burning top of a candle)

Pees - symbolised by white dove (peace)

Pees-Tox - between IRA and John Major (peace talks)

Reeva - e.g. Limpopo, Vaal, Orange (river)

Regime - anything to describe pre-1994

Ree kwest - replaced by dee mands (request)

Sheep - big boat

Shex - houses in squatter camps

Ship - provider of wool

Shit of Peppa - something to write on (sheet of paper)

Shuck-attak - if the shuck-net is brokkin (shark)

Shuck-nets - at Debben, for safety of sweamas (swimmers)

Spitch - what politicians make at a relly (speech)

Suth - opposite of North

Sweamas - compete in a sweaming pul

Teps - solvent to thin enamel paint

Teck - see geave

Teksi - kah for hire - sometimes parrot teksi

Thest - ice cold Coke will relieve it on a hot day

Tipic ally - characteristic

Tocks - negotiations

Ufrican - pertaining to Ufrica

Ummy - military force

Wee men - ladies

We pon - a gun

Wean-dow - with glus for throwing bricks through

Weaned - Gone with the Weaned

Weaner - the one with the most votes

Weckliss - the unemployed pee-pull

Weds - what the dictionary is made up of

Wekkas - do the weck

Weld - the eth

Wems - small crawly creatures

Weth - she is weth her weight in gold.
Louis   Sunday, May 15, 2005, 02:17 GMT
To Andre:

Bravo to S. Africa for a masterful job wrapped up in their 4th one-day international against the Windies! I didn't watch it, but the sports section lauded Ashwell Prince who hit a 89 run not out.

I'm from Singapore, by the way.
Louis   Sunday, May 15, 2005, 02:22 GMT
And thank you for that link. It's most interesting and v. informative! In all likelihood, Hansie Cronje has already been beatified and is put on the fast track towards sainthood by the cricketing masses. It's only a matter of time before he joins the pantheon of great cricketing legends such as WGG Grace.

Baie Dankie!
andre in south africa   Sunday, May 15, 2005, 14:56 GMT
I agree Louis. It's a pity his career ended in such a way, but there can be no doubt that he was a brilliant cricketer. In the long run people will only remember that. BTW I live in Bloemfontein, the city where he grew up - his parents still live here. Most people here simply refuse he did anything wrong, and you dare not critisize him.
andre in south africa   Sunday, May 15, 2005, 15:13 GMT
*Baie Dankie! *

My plesier! :)
!   Monday, May 16, 2005, 00:35 GMT
South Africans and Kiwis appear to be similar in the way they pronounce their vowels.