a (metric) unit

Adam   Tue Jan 31, 2006 6:57 pm GMT
">> Nobody uses Fahrenheit in the UK do they? <<

Not generally, I don't think. Only really older people and maybe some people in isolated/rural areas."
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SURVEY SHOWS THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE BRITISH PEOPLE, EVEN THE METRIC-EDUCATED 15-24 YEARS OLD, PREFER USING IMPERIAL MEASUREMENTS.


From The Yardstick, number 6, March 1998

Conclusive evidence of the unpopularity of metric measures in all age groups

Until recently we quoted the 1995 Gallup survey for evidence to support our contention that the general public continues to think in terms of imperial units and prefers to do so rather than convert to metric. The Trago Mills survey of its own customers last August, although only a local exercise, provided valuable current corroboration, showing that 83% favour pints against 15% for litres (Gallup 87/10), 82% pounds v. 16% kilograms (Gallup 87/10), 72% yards v. 25% metres (69/26), 87% miles v. 11% kilometres (95/3), etc.

In December, however, we were presented with all the evidence concerning popular opinion that we could want, in the form of a scientific, independent, comprehensive, nation-wide survey commissioned by Abbott Mead Vickers BBDO Ltd, one of Britain's biggest advertising agencies, and conducted by Research Services Ltd, a leading market research company. Its key findings are:

· 74% of the public find imperial units more convenient than metric;

· the preference for customary measures covers all age-groups, even the metric-educated 15-24 year-olds, and all regions of the country;

· only 7% are in favour of government policy which would make all printing and packaging (for labelling and display, and including ingredients in published recipes) exclusively metric; whereas three times as many (21%) favour sole use of imperial units, and ten times as many (70%) would prefer a system of dual marking (allowing customers to use whichever is convenient for any requirement).

Christopher Booker's feature in The Sunday Telegraph on 21st December, brilliantly publicized this report. The Guardian carried a prominent account of it on 2nd January.

Please take every opportunity of quoting these results in correspondence with officials! The public are clearly on our side.



GIVE THEM AN INCH...

What Britain really thinks about going metric

(Extracts from Abbott Mead Vickers BBDO Ltd's report, November 1997)


IN SUMMARY ...

The research:

• A survey of a nationally representative sample of 1,000 British adults aged 15+, carried out by RSL in November 1997.

The findings:

• An overwhelming majority of the British public (74%) find feet and inches, pints and pounds, to be more convenient for most everyday purposes than their metric equivalents.

• The preference for customary units is stronger than that for metric across all age groups, including the metric-educated 15-24s, and across all regions of the country.

• Women are significantly more likely to prefer customary measures than men. 82% say they find the Imperial system more convenient for most everyday purposes.

• Only a tiny minority — 7% — are in favour of the current move towards printing the packaging for goods, and the ingredients listed in recipes, solely in metric measurements.

• Three times as many — 21% — would prefer these to be given in Imperial measures only.

• Ten times as many — 70% — would prefer a system of dual labelling, which would allow the consumer to choose the system which suited him or her the best.

The companies:

• RSL is one of Britain's most respected independent market research companies.

• Abbott Mead Vickers BBDO Ltd. is Britain's leading advertising agency.


GIVE THEM AN INCH — AN INTRODUCTION TO THE RESEARCH

by Warwick Cairns, Board Planning Director, Abbott Mead Vickers BBDO LTD

Why is it that boy-racer motorists in their early twenties will tell you how many 'miles per gallon' their souped-up Ford Escorts will do, when so few of them will ever have bought petrol in anything but litres? Why is it that children, when you ask them how tall they are, or how much they weigh, will give you the answer in feet and inches and stones and pounds, when all they have ever learned at school is metres and kilograms? And why is it that so many cooks still talk about 'half a pound of butter', when butter has been sold, for years, in 250g blocks?

The received wisdom has it that people do these things because metrication is still in a transitional stage. People — and particularly young people — are mainly metric nowadays, the received wisdom says, but occasionally they will use the 'old' system, where they have to, in a dwindling number of circumstances. But things, it is thought, are changing: already, most packaged goods come in metric sizes, and more and more manufacturers and retailers are dropping the 'supplementary' Imperial equivalents (the little figures in brackets that tell you how much 250 grams are in ounces, for example) from their packs. More and more recipes in books and newspapers and magazines are printed in metric units only. In the next few years, some of the last bastions of the 'old' system — street markets and shops selling loose goods — will be required by law to make the switch, or risk heavy fines or imprisonment. This is felt to be what people want, and to be in everybody's interest. When the legal process is complete, the received wisdom has it that Britain's customary weights and measures will be abandoned altogether, and will come to be regarded merely as historical curiosities.

This research has been designed to test the received wisdom. It has two aims:

• To see which system of measurements people in Britain — both young and old — really feel most comfortable with.

• To see whether they actually want all of the goods they buy, and all the instructions and articles and recipes they read, to be wholly metric.

THE RESEARCH

Between the 14th and the 18th of November 1997, a random sample of 1,000 British adults aged 15+ were interviewed in their homes by executives of the research company RSL's computer-assisted personal interviewing (CAPI) division.

The sample was chosen to be nationally representative, using the same 58 Area Groupings used by the National Readership Survey (NRS), based on the Registrar-General's 11 Standard regions and the 12 ISBA television regions. All areas of the country (excluding the Shetlands and Orkney Islands) were covered. Quota controls were set for age and sex, for social class and for the balance of the kinds of areas the respondents lived in (as determined by the ACORN housing type classification).

They were each asked two questions, and given a range of multiple-choice answers to choose from.


THE QUESTIONNAIRE

1. Thinking about weights and measures, which kinds of measurement do you generally find most convenient for everyday purposes?

(a) Imperial measurements such as feet & inches, pounds and pints

(b) Metric measurements such as metres, kilograms and litres

2. On packaging for food and drink and in publications such as cookery books and magazines, how do you think weights and measures should be classified?

(a) Pounds and pints only; (b) Kilograms and litres only; (c) Both systems

THE RESULTS

Overall preference, and preference by sex

• An overwhelming majority of the British public — 74% — say that they generally find the Imperial system more convenient for everyday purposes.

• Women in particular prefer British customary measures — 82% say they find Imperial more convenient, compared with only 12% who prefer metric.


Preference by age

• Teenagers and young adults in their early twenties are more well-disposed towards the metric system: 43% say that they find it most convenient. However...

• ...even amongst this age group — the product of a wholly Metric education system — a clear majority (51%) say that they find Imperial most convenient for everyday purposes.


Preference by region

• There is a clear and huge majority preferring pounds, pints, feet and inches across the country.

• However, in urban and industrialised areas like London and the East Midlands, the preference for Imperial is a little less pronounced than it is in more rural regions.


Classification of packaged goods/recipes etc.

• When given the choice of how packaged goods should be labelled, and how recipes should be published, the current 'official policy' — metric only — was favoured only by a tiny minority (7%).

• Three times as many people — 21% — favoured Imperial only.

• Ten times as many — 70% — wanted dual labelling, allowing them the choice of systems.


• The preference for dual labelling was overwhelming across all age groups.

• The 15-24 age-group — the most split in terms of the systems they used in everyday life — was far more united in favour of dual labelling. Only 14% of 16-24s preferred metric-only. This compares with 16% preferring Imperial only, and 68% preferring dual labelling.



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We are immensely grateful to Warwick Cairns, Board Planning Director at Abbott Mead Vickers BBDO Ltd, for supplying us with copies of the full report, and his expert statistical analysis, free of charge.

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Us Brits aren't using Metric, unless Europe wants to go to war with us to force it upon us (but I wouldn't advise it). We aren't stupid. We know which set of measurements are best.
Adam   Tue Jan 31, 2006 7:02 pm GMT
Metric measurements are very popular even amongst the British people where they are the MOST popular. Even 51% of them prefer Imperial -

Teenagers and young adults in their early twenties are more well-disposed towards the metric system: 43% say that they find it most convenient. However...

• ...even amongst this age group — the product of a wholly Metric education system — a clear majority (51%) say that they find Imperial most convenient for everyday purposes.
greg   Tue Jan 31, 2006 7:07 pm GMT
Et attention Adam ! Bientôt c'est le passage à...


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Adam   Tue Jan 31, 2006 7:08 pm GMT
"Metric measurements are very popular even amongst the British people where they are the MOST popular. Even 51% of them prefer Imperial - "

That should be "Metric measurements aren't popular......"

I'm sure I'm keyboard dyslexic.

There are some main reasons why the British hate Metric -

1) It was invented by the French;

2) That means it doesn't work properly - a metre was invented by dividing the length from the North Pole to the Equator by 10 million. However, the French got their measurements wrong.

3) When Celsius was first invented, they put it upside-down - that means something hot was below zero (so your cup of tea could have measured -35 degrees Celsius) and something extremely cold measured 40 degrees Celsius. When this was noticed, the whole scale had to be turned the right way up.

4) Metric measurements are mostly used, in Europe, in the countries invaded by Napoleon, who forced them to use Metric measurements. Britain successfully stopped Napoleon from invading, so why should we adopt his measurements when he never managed to force them upon us?
Benjamin   Tue Jan 31, 2006 7:09 pm GMT
>> SURVEY SHOWS THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE BRITISH PEOPLE, EVEN THE METRIC-EDUCATED 15-24 YEARS OLD, PREFER USING IMPERIAL MEASUREMENTS. <<

Whoop-di-do. That survey refers to imperial measurements in general. I have no reason to assume from that that Fahrenheit is used more in Britain than Celsius since that survey appears to make no reference to temperature.


>> From The Yardstick, number 6, March 1998 <<

Eight years ago anyway.
"   Tue Jan 31, 2006 7:10 pm GMT
Et attention Adam ! Bientôt c'est le passage à...


••••••••••••••••••••L'EURO !!!•••••••••••••••••••• "

I won't speak about the Euro but (again) Britain was right to NOT adopt it.
Adam   Tue Jan 31, 2006 7:19 pm GMT
Survey after survey after survey in Britain shows the majority ALWAYS supporting Imperial. I can't see any survey in this list where most supported Metric

When metric-only education commenced in 1975, the government believed that the proportion of people thinking in UK units would decline as increasing numbers of school leavers replaced the previous generation. Thus, total metric conversion be achieved at a future point with minimum dispuption to the public. In practice, this has not happened. The rejection of metric by the British population has been indicated by at least fifteen public or consumer surveys and polls between 1995 and 2000:

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Year..........Survey....................Imperial....Metric

Feb 2002 .Teletext n/k.................. 61% ..39%
Feb .2002 Carlton TV 10,000+........ 95% ..5%
April 2001 .Evening Standard n/k ...92%..... 8%
March 2001. ICM Research 1,000... 74% .....26%
Feb 2001 ..The Sun n/k............... 80% ......20%
Jan 2001 ..ICM Research 1,000 .....91% .......9%
Jan 2001. ITN u/k................... .....68% .......u/k
Jun 2000 Tesco 1,000 ...................90%.... 8%
Jul 2000.. HTV West 13,697 ..........88%.. .......12%
2000 .GMTV u/k ..........................85%.... ......13%
Jul 2000 .Teletext 4,349..... ..........98% ..........2%
2000 .Teletext 7,229 ....................97% ...........3%
2000. BMRB 1,015 ......................67% ..........16%
1999. BMRB 1,010 ......................72%.. .........15%
1998 ....Trago Mills 3,780 ............83% ............16%
1997 .....RSL 1,000 ....................74% ...........19%
1995 .....NOP 1,000 ....................60% .............11%
1995 .......Gallup 1,082................ 52% .............37%

Historical:
1975 ........Gallup u/k .......53% ..........35%
1965 .........Gallup u/k .......46% ..........36%



BMRB Asked a nationally representative sample of people, aged 16 and over, between 26th and 28th February 1999, "Thinking about buying fresh foods, do you prefer to think of weight in pounds and ounces or in kilograms and grams?" Broken down by gender, the result was:

............Imperial............. Metric
Male ........60% ...............22%
Female..... 83% ...............8%



Trago Mills Retail chain Trago Mills conducted a survey during August 23-30th 1997 among 3,780 customers at stores in Devon and Cornwall. Asked customers, "Which units of measurement do you prefer to use?" Broken down, customers said:

pints 83%.............. litres 15%
pounds 82% ......... kilograms 16%
yards 72% ............ metres 25%
inches 75% ........... centimetres 23%
miles 87% .............. kilometres 11%




Gallup (1995)"Do you approve of the decision to switch over to the Continental system, using metres instead of yards and litres instead of pints?"

Gallup also asked respondents, "Do you normally think in [imperial or metric]...?" The results were as follows:

miles 95% .............kilometres 3%
yards 69% .............metres 26%
pounds 87% .......... kilos 10%
pints 87% .............litres 10%
fahrenheit 49% ....... centigrade 44%

http://www.bwmaonline.com/Consumer%20Surveys.htm
Benjamin   Tue Jan 31, 2006 7:27 pm GMT
>> Survey after survey after survey in Britain shows the majority ALWAYS supporting Imperial. I can't see any survey in this list where most supported Metric <<

Wunderbar, still very little mention of Celsius/Centigrade vs. Fahrenheit until the very bottom though. So, in 1995, 49% of people preferred Fahrenheit, whilst 44% preferred Celsius/Centigrade (presumably the other preferred something else). That's 11 years ago — the majority is not great enough for me to assume that it's still reliable now.
Uriel   Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:01 pm GMT
When in doubt, and everyone is making fun of you and shredding your pseudoarguments into little tiny pieces, try cutting & pasting some pointless article. It's very soothing to know that not only do two other people (occasionally three) actually share your views, but one of them also managed to get them published.
Piotr   Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:28 pm GMT
imperial in the UK will die very soon , just one generation
euro   Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:29 pm GMT
Adam, have you heard about the NANOMETRICS you idiot !?
Damian Scotland UK   Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:04 pm GMT
I think Adam is confusing public opinion with commerce, industry and every single scientific organisation in the United Kingdom. The latter groupings ALL conduct their business in metric. Everything but everything in British industry and commerce and science...in fact everything that makes our country run, is now effected in metric. Except maybe a remote cottage industry carried out in a croft on the beautifully misty and idyllic Isle of Skye and which still blithely carries on iits business n pounds and pints and perches in front of a roaring fire fuelled by peat.

Just one simple example, Adam...take a trip down to your nearest DIY store (eg B&Q) anywhere in the UK and try to buy any home fittings for whatever you require with all measurements in imperial...feet and inches or weighing in pounds etc and all your tins of paint in gallons or pints or whatever they were. You just won't find any, pal! The asistant will "look at you funny" and think you've just been released from either a long prison sentence or a monastery.
History shows that British public opinion has always been at odds with officialdom, so (according to you) a majority of Brits may feel happier with imperials, that does not apply to the real stuff that turns the whells of the nation in the 21st century. It's true that most people casually think themselves as being feet and inches tall and weigh so many stones and pounds, they have to convert to those measurements from all the metric readings officially taken down at the gym or in the doctor's surgery or down at the hospital or wherever.
ditto   Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:05 pm GMT
whells = wheels
Yann   Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:56 pm GMT
My penis is 6 inch when errected.

Can someone can convent this so I can get some Metric European pussy?
Guest   Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:55 pm GMT
You're too small. Inflating the numbers with metric won't change that.