Why is greek such a funny language?

On this topic, I noticed that 92 % (I calculated) of the expressed opinions are are full of bullshit, superficial, closed to stupid.

Then,

In their naivety, hopping to make their points, a few individuals are posting many times under different names. Sometimes, they give themselves "authentic" Greeks, another times, they are Iranians, or Arabs, even Norwegians or Germans when in fact they are only Slavs, (Bulgarians, Serbs, Macedonian Slavs).

Young fellows, with this attitude, you cannot gain any knowledge and obviously, you suffer of a huge need of such.

It is up to you if you want to remain consequent in your hate, narrow minded in you world perception, completely incarcerated in the Middle Age time or to make progresses.

If you think that by your opinions you change the reality, the historical truth, you are completely wrong. The reality is known! On this forum, you had the chance to learn something helpfully and easy but if you refuse it, it is your problem, again. Stay tuned to your propaganda emission.


The Hellenic people are who they are, ( the result of Fillip the second/Alexander the Great - Macedonian people and the ancient Greeks). They are the creators of Hellenic World if you ever heard about it.

The Persians have been conquered by Alexander's armies and after his dead, the solders either return to Ellada, or they remained in Persia, infusing some Hellenic blood into the Persian vines. (and not vice versa).

The first Bulgars who migrated into Thracian, south of the Danube, where of Turkic origin. They were later assimilated by the Southern Slavs. Although it is saying that from the original Bulgars (Turkic tribe men), is nothing remaining today but the nation and country name, some blood traces are still to be considered. They the ones having the Turkic DNA and not the Greeks. They have more such traces than even the Turks because the Ottomans have cleansed the original Turkish people in a huge percent by "importing" children from all the conquered or vassal countries, including Romanian provinces.

Who are the Southern Slavs? Croatians were tribes of Iranian origin who transformed the Serbs into their Slavs (that's another reason why they cannot get along, not even today), and led them during migration time to Southern part of Europe. The Croatians have chosen the Northern part of the approximate former Yugoslavia territory (I'm using this as indicator to make it easier ,to figure out) while the Serbs have chosen the Southern side. Both these tribes have found here Albanians, people of Illyrian- Thracian origin.

In conclusion

- Hellenic Nation is a mixture of Thracian (possible)-Macedonian-Antic Greeks. (There are historians who considers that Macedonian, Geto-Dacian, Illyrian, Moesian, Costobocs, Carps, Dardans etc are all related and part of the huge Thracian nation.)

- Bulgarian Nation: A Slavic nation resulted from the assimilation by Slavic people of the Bulgars (Turkic tribes).

- Serbian Nation - the southern Slavs, slavered by Croatians and brought into this region by force. During the time they mixed themselves with Croatians

- Croatians - Iranian origin tribes who adopted the Slavs language and in some points, mixing with Serbs and not only.


All these nations, of course during the time, came in contact with each other and influenced themselves, here and there, borrowing from each other cultural elements, vocabulary etc. But all of them, once build as they are today, they became very conscientious of who they are and tried the preserve their actual ethnicity.

Coming back to the topic, there is no language in the world to be called Funny. Funny is your perception, funny is your incapability to absorb the Truth.

A language has the extraordinary capability to make people easy communicating among each other. It makes people expressing feelings and Greek is doing this with great success. As you can see, or hear, the Greeks are singing, writing books and songs, conducting scientifically researches and most important communicating among them at the highest level possible. What is funny about this language, then?

There is only one single truth here, You and your postings are Funny, indeed.

Am I a poet? Do you know , at least, what a poet is? What is he doing?

Mario,

Sortiris is not Greek, this is what Calliope said to him: that she believes that he is not Greek. If she only believes it, I'm certain that he is not Greek. He didn't disappeared, he just took another mask. He impersonated another nation, that's all! Maybe, his name is Mario,now!

On the other hand, when 92% of you are posting here as you do, why are you accusing me that am not allowing you to say a word. You put 92% of all opinions here and I , Calliope and Augustin717 ( the combatants), only 8% percent: where is the interdiction you are talking about? In the fact that you cannot prove your absurdities? That's not our faults my dear!

You want me to disappear and let you aberate on this forum? If Yes, I'm sorry, I cannot. I cannot remain in observation when the subculture tries to take over the real values and to turn it upside-down. It is my obligation as human being to react against destruction. It is a common sense which every individual should posses.

I don't think it matters what Greeks look like. This is a red herring. Calliope herself admitted that there is admixture, and that all cultures are an admixture. What matters is that Greek culture and language has survived continuous and unabated. Sure, both the culture and language have taken "loans" from neighboring cultures, but Greek culture still calls upon both its ancient and Byzantine heritage. And of course, Greek and Turkish are structurally and morphologically very different languages despite any loan words, just as English is not French despite the loans.

It really doesn't matter, Ryan how the Greeks or any other nation look like. The topic here was regarding the Greek language but majority of the people who posted here started to make comentaries about how the Greeks are looking. And at the end, they accused Calliope (and me, I guess) of having something against the arabs... and of being racist when they where the ones who mentioned DNA studies made on Greeks!?!

Let's hope that this confrontation finaly went to the end!

Have nice day!

Ion,

You are a very, very, very messed up human being...probably you have way too many mirrors at your place...stop looking at them and you will get better, I promise!

Predrag,


The only thing you are doing here is making statements about people, how do the look, how do they mixed up with each other, who they are etc. And altough, that was not the topic here, it wouldn't bother anybody if they were at least healthy, real, true.
But they are not and you only do what you do because the only arguments you can bring into a discussion are the insults, persuasion, perversity, superficiality.

You called me a very, very, very messed up human being... What is that Predrag? That's the only argument you have against my postings here? You don't like me because I'm not supporting your stupid opinions about the Greeks? Come here informed, with a good baggage of information and contradict me but don't just rise the feast towards me. That's rude, my Serbian friend!

For imposing/expressing ideas, wishes, needs or rules we gave up the Stick hit solution and invented a new way of communication : the language. That's happened long, long, long time ago, Prdrag. What would you do to if you had been seeing me standing in front of you? Would you hit me with the feet and feasts? Why Predrag, because I didn't let you play as you wanted? Because I took away your toys? Wake up, before is not to late! Read you own history and contradict me if I'm wrong because I might be wrong, but prove it. Before you do that, I have to trust my studies and researches, the discoveries made by scientists, the ancient and not only documents, historical evidences and sources. Bring something new with you, proved , healthy and not propagandistic and I will be with you. I love to find out the truth if there is another one than I consider it today!!

You speak about me having many faces? I don't think that you ever understood what I was saying on this forum, no matter on which topic. You just don't have the level to understand that, and I accept it but don't deflate yourself here please your frustrations against me, or anybody else! Go in the wild and do what you know best, if you feel like that.

You were wearing the friendly, understanding and superior face while providing consolation to Boban but in a naive manere, as you were in kindergarten. You suffer on arguments and knowledge lack and you come here just for providing insults. You are just a novice in history, linguistics etc, but perspire trough all your skin pores, and respire trough your mouth and nose only hate. Hate against other Balkan nations. That's what you learned to do the best. Do it my friend, but dont't be surprise when you'll be left alone!

This is my last replica for you! I don't have anything to discuss with you because you don't have the "7 years from home", I hope you know what that means.

I feel very, very, very sorry for you!

take care of yourself!

I wonder why greeks are so angry at the way they look? I don't see any problem with that. I am originally from Colombia and as a hispanic my skin has a darker tone than Europeans. I have no problem with that. It is very true that greeks look much more like arabs or like they came from Afganistan, but this should not bother them them. Hey, it's just the tone of your skin and you can do nothing about it, so just forget it, don't worry. Just speak greek and it's all good.

Greeks in this website remind me of Michael Jackson with his complex of skin color and his plastic surgeries...do you greek guys feel like him too? Are we going to see millions of greeks flood our Emergency Rooms to get the much-wanted European light complexion?

I have a question (please don't get offended), just from curiosity. Is your dark complexion the reason why you greeks keep always hats or try to cover your face, so not to have any contact with the sun for fear of getting darker? It is only an observation I have made. I work with a greek woman, Sofika, and that's what she does all the time...

Greek language seems very hard to learn. I wonder who would even try it, because today it is useless, unless you are greek and need to do some shopping in Greece. Anyway, it looks that turkish would work the same too.

@ Angelica

Why don't you bother to read what has been said before you comment? You would find that most of what you wrote was pointless, and that you are preaching to the choir.

I won't bother to comment on the ignorant assumptions you made; I will just point out that:
a) Wearing hats is very rare in Greece - exept when you are lying on the beach with the strong sun in your eyes, and
b) Sofika is not even a Greek name.

And since your story is incorrect on so many levels, I can't help but wondering how much of an "Angelica" you are, and whether you could even point out Colombia on a map, let alone be from there. Do you also happen to go by the name "Sotiris" on forums..?

@Ryan

"I don't think it matters what Greeks look like. This is a red herring. Calliope herself admitted that there is admixture, and that all cultures are an admixture. What matters is that Greek culture and language has survived continuous and unabated. Sure, both the culture and language have taken "loans" from neighboring cultures, but Greek culture still calls upon both its ancient and Byzantine heritage. And of course, Greek and Turkish are structurally and morphologically very different languages despite any loan words, just as English is not French despite the loans."

Thank you. I was starting to think I was typing in Greek all this time, seeing that so many sock puppets pretended they didn't understand what I said.

Now I wonder if there is a greek individual who doesn't offend other people so carelessly as they do in this forum? What kind of crowd they are...

At least we have the balls to post under our own names and not as numerous sock puppets to create impressions.

Calliope wrote:

"Sofika is not even a Greek name"

Calliope, wake up girl! Sofika is not a greek name, maybe bulgarian. There are no greeks left in Greece today. That is what the whole forum has been telling you for a long time now. Helloooooo...

@Boban

Sofika is not a name used in Greece. It could be Bulgarian, but I couldn't care less - it only shows "Angelica" was pulling it out of "her" ass.

You don't have the slightest idea about Greece or Greeks, so you are in no position to be telling me what they are and are not. Maybe you could overcome whatever personal problem you have with us and actually start *listening* to someone who has educated info to share. Or you could remain a fanatic ignorant, attacking a whole nation on internet forums under different nicknames.

Ion said:

“Who are the Southern Slavs? Croatians were tribes of Iranian origin who transformed the Serbs into their Slavs (that's another reason why they cannot get along, not even today), and led them during migration time to Southern part of Europe. The Croatians have chosen the Northern part of the approximate former Yugoslavia territory (I'm using this as indicator to make it easier ,to figure out) while the Serbs have chosen the Southern side. Both these tribes have found here Albanians, people of Illyrian- Thracian origin.

In conclusion

- Hellenic Nation is a mixture of Thracian (possible)-Macedonian-Antic Greeks. (There are historians who considers that Macedonian, Geto-Dacian, Illyrian, Moesian, Costobocs, Carps, Dardans etc are all related and part of the huge Thracian nation.)

- Bulgarian Nation: A Slavic nation resulted from the assimilation by Slavic people of the Bulgars (Turkic tribes).

- Serbian Nation - the southern Slavs, slavered by Croatians and brought into this region by force. During the time they mixed themselves with Croatians

- Croatians - Iranian origin tribes who adopted the Slavs language and in some points, mixing with Serbs and not only.”




Dear Ion, you have some very good points when you shortly explain the origin of Slavs in the Balkans. There is a good understanding about this in the scientific community and you seem to have the right information in this case.

The question that remains unexplained is the very dark complexion of your skin and this must be well understood as a normal thing and no one here is having anything against it. The problem is that Greeks are surrounded by Slaves (light skin, brunets); Albanians (light skin, brunets, blondes); Turks (dark complexion); Africans – in the South (dark complexion). All the rest of the European Mediterranean nations have a lighter skin complexion than you guys (Italians, Spaniards, French, etc.) Your skin complexion looks closer to Arabs, to the best Turks. So, knowing your history, with over 500 years of Ottoman (Turkish) invasion, meaning 7 generations of Turkish males present in your country and not the Turks we know now, but wild, hungry, destructive, horny animals; also Arabian trade routes for millennia passed through Greece, etc, etc, and all these make the conclusions way to easy even for the simplest mind in the Universe. We should look closely even into that influx of Africans from the Northern Africa, but I personally doubt it had any effect.

So, knowing who you are, usually gives not the best taste expected, but will make life simpler in the long term. So, dear Greek friends, don’t be mad at the history or your dark skin color. Worry about the future. Don't answer with hate to all the love and understanding that people in this forum are expressing towards you.

I never thought of learning Greek. It is too hard and it would take me time I could use for better things, but anyway, it doesn’t sound or look funny to me, just hard and useless (for a non-Greek). I love Greek/Turkish/Albanian cuisine and people though. :-)

Vladimir take care of your white mind.....:)


Dark Albanians,too! in the South(Tosks)
Ghegs are the blonds
Dark Bulgarians too!(800.000 Turks in Bulgaria)
Dark Serbs,Bosnians,Sicilians,Southern Italians,Southern French
Portuguese are also brown and dark like Luis Figo
Dark Romanians,too(A lot of Gypsies)

Dark Southern Spaniards,too-Malaga
(The Arab people have conquered the Iberia for centuries)

Black-Arabian French(you can see their sport teams)

Dark Englishmen,dark Germans etc.....the world changes....