United-Statian movement
No, the continents are:
America, Europe, Africa, Asia and Oceania. (+ Antarctica but is uninhabited)
Why do you think that the Olympic-Games Logo has 5 rings? Because each one represents one continent.
And even if they thought that there are two separate continents North and South America, still when they use the word “America” they refer to the two of them together.
In no other language besides English the word "America" refers to the United States.
<<No, the continents are:
America, Europe, Africa, Asia and Oceania. (+ Antarctica but is uninhabited)
Why do you think that the Olympic-Games Logo has 5 rings? Because each one represents one continent.>>
Sorry, but this type of thinking is completely illogical. You definition of "continent" needs to be reworked. North America and South America can't be considered one continent if Europe and Asia are considered separate.
<<And even if they thought that there are two separate continents North and South America, still when they use the word “America” they refer to the two of them together.>>
No, America in the singular is the United States to them. Americas, plural, is the two continents together.
<<In no other language besides English the word "America" refers to the United States.>>
Really? I know for a fact that you're wrong. For example, when Alexis de Tocqueville wrote De la démocratie en Amérique, his book and the title were about the United States of America. That's just one example. At the very least, in French, "America" can and does regularly refer to the United States.
”In no other language besides English the word "America" refers to the United States."
In Japanese it does.
Your argument is exploding right before your eyes. You keep posting the same set of links over and over, but they don't even help support your point. It is only amongst the Hispanics and Spanish-speaking countries that North America and South America are one continent, or that "America" exclusively refers to said continent.
In other languages it is perfectly customary to refer to the United States as "America."
We've already seen that the French on many occasions use "America" to refer to the United States.
See the real German link (the one you conveniently ignored):
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerika
This shows that Germans also recognize "America" to mean the United States.
Also, from the Italain website:
"Gli abitanti delle Americhe vengono indicati come Americani, sebbene questo termine sia più comunemente applicato ai cittadini degli Stati Uniti d'America.
Le Americhe sono spesso chiamate anche solo "America", termine che in generale si riferisce sia al continente settentrionale che a quello meridionale, ma che nel linguaggio comune viene usato per indicare anche i soli Stati Uniti."
Do you know what that means? It says that the word "American" refers to citizens of the United States, and that also "America" colloquially a lot of times means United States.
Oh, and that's not even getting in to the issue of other languages, such as Japanese (which I don't understand). However I'm glad someone else has come in to inform us that even there "America" refers to the United States.
But this is ignoring the most obvious point: English is the most important language, the lingua franca of the world, and in this language, the United States is synonymous with America!
You are the one that doesn't want to open your eyes to the fact that the big majority of the languages in the world do NOT use the word "America" to refer to the United States; did you see all those links? All of them described the word America, and none of them meant to say USA.
Or tell me are those links lying? I’m showing you proof and you just don’t want to see it, almost all languages worldwide when they say “America” they do NOT mean the United States.
<<You are the one that doesn't want to open your eyes to the fact that the big majority of the languages in the world do NOT use the word "America" to refer to the United States; did you see all those links? All of them described the word America, and none of them meant to say USA.>>
Sorry, you're just angry that I actually read through the links, and did my own research, something you were probably hoping I wouldn't do. I cited for you what America means the United States in most languages, yet you still won't accept it. Who's the one being stubborn?
<<Or tell me are those links lying? I’m showing you proof and you just don’t want to see it, almost all languages worldwide when they say “America” they do NOT mean the United States.>>
No, those links tell the truth, which is that America = United States in most of the world's major languages. It's only in Spanish and Portugese that people "conveniently" pretend that America stands for one continent.
Sorry I forgot to sign my name, the above post is mine.
<<The reality is that we've been called "Americans" for centuries.>>
This is a myth. The terms "America-American" the way are used today to refer to U.S. and its citizens in the U.S and other anglo countries is as much as 60 or 70 years old, maybe less.
The continent was separated maybe in early XX century in North America and South America. Note that Central America is the area between both higher land masses. If we apply the term Central America to this definition it should be in the middle of the U.S. NOT in the south of North America which is a nonsense if you think about it.
I've checked out the International Webster dictionary from 1920 and America to refer to U.S. still is in the second place being the whole mass the first definition still as one continent.
I have a book of Latin and even it was part of the U.S. Congress Library. Reading it I found an interesting comment of the author. He gives a definition of Gallia and says: "Gallia was used in two different meanings. In a wide sense (as used here) it included the lands of the Belgians, the Aquitanians and the Gauls. In a narrow sense it meant the part of Gaul inhabitated by the Galli." now he writes, "Compare our use of America, => which is sometimes used with reference to North, Central and South America <= and sometimes with reference to the United States".
The book's copyright is form 1946 (Loyola University Press, Chicaco) and the edition is from 1956.
<<This is a myth. The terms "America-American" the way are used today to refer to U.S. and its citizens in the U.S and other anglo countries is as much as 60 or 70 years old, maybe less.>>
Uh, no "American" has referred to citizens of the United States for much longer than 60-70 years. It may not have been exclusive, but the term was still used in that manner. Anyways, this debate is silly. Just because a few extremist South Americans have a problem with the extra distinction, it's not going to change the fact that the term "Americans" is our tradition and will continue to be the name for citizens of the United States.
So to my Pseudo-American and African-Eurasian friends, let's end this United Statian talk once and for all, as it's ridiculous.
This forum opened my eyes: I start calling United Statians the inhabitantas of US from tomorrow
That's kind of a long term isn't it? "the inhabitants of the US"
Do what you like, though. lol
"This forum opened my eyes: I start calling United Statians the inhabitantas of US from tomorrow"
And we'll people from France, England, and Spain, "African-Eurasians," and people from South America "Pseudo-Americans"!
Australians become "Oceanians."
Heh. The only time I've seen United Statian before was once on this forum. When I saw it then my initial thought was that the person was calling me a name: a mixture of "American" and "Statist"!