Greek and Spanish comparison

Guest   Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:29 pm GMT
Well, Saracens (or whatever you want to call them, it's fine with me) didn't invent nuclear bombs, concentration camps, GMO, BSE and other benefits of western civilization. So, yes Europe and whole world would be very different if Saracens managed to hold the Iberian peninsula, but it could well be a better world to live in.
Adolfo   Fri Sep 07, 2007 8:09 pm GMT
What's wrong with the nuclear bomb itself? Do we have to blame the researchers who invented it? Nuclear bombs are nice.
Josh Lalonde   Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:17 pm GMT
<<Go to hell, Josh, you are most obnoxious host in the whole internet. I am tempted to attack your site just for the fun of it!!! Don't push your luck>>

The angrier the trolls are, the better I'm doing my job. ;-) Seriously though, this thread is getting waaaaay off topic. (And it's not my site BTW.)
Guest   Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:42 pm GMT
"The angrier the trolls are, the better I'm doing my job."

No I am not a troll. I am an Spanish guy with a PHD in EE and and my threat about bringing down your server is something I can easily do... but something I won't do because, after all... I enjoy your site.

You need the relax. You have some sort of personal problem that makes you want to be somebody important and want to BE IN CHARGE. That, for I know about you, it's not going to happen. Relax, this site does only need you to act when somebody is offending somebody else. Relax... the less you intervene the better.

Take my advice, Josh, I'm much older than you... Relax and enjoy this site as much as we do...
Josh Lalonde   Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:35 am GMT
No.
OïL   Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:33 pm GMT
Gentlemen, time to come back to the topic....

Yep, Spanish and Greek sound strikingly similar, just as do most of languages spoken along Europe's Mediterranean rim: minimal vowel systems (inventory often reduced to 5 vowels) — which results in a distinctive colourful Mediterranean voice —. And trilled alveolar R too.

With those features the human voice is fittted with a sort of built-in amplifier and lent ifself especially well to operatic singing (Maria Callas, Placido Domingo... without forgetting the late Luciano Pavarotti).

Since there isn't any special relationship between Spanish and Greek, the only available explanation is that it's a legacy of some pre-Indo-European substrate of which the Basque language would be the only surviving remnant.
Josh Lalonde   Sat Sep 08, 2007 4:56 pm GMT
<<Since there isn't any special relationship between Spanish and Greek, the only available explanation is that it's a legacy of some pre-Indo-European substrate of which the Basque language would be the only surviving remnant.>>

Definitely not. The five vowel system is one of the most common in the world's languages. I suppose the five-vowel system of Japanese comes from a Basque substrate too?
Guest   Sat Sep 08, 2007 5:03 pm GMT
Greek especially in its Classical form shows lots of similaties with Latin because they can be considered sisters to each other and offspwing of Indo-European.

Spanish and other Romance languages are just nieces of Clasical Greek while modern Greek is their cousin.
Guest   Sat Sep 08, 2007 5:12 pm GMT
Greek especially in its Classical form shows lots of similaties with Latin because they can be considered sisters to each other and offspring of Indo-European than with Spanish and other Romance languages.

Spanish and other Romance languages are just nieces of Clasical Greek while Modern Greek is their cousin.

That's true Josh in grammar, phonology, and in vocabulary.
Guest   Sat Sep 08, 2007 5:16 pm GMT
If there are huge similarities in vocabulary between Greek and Spanish and other Romance langauges it's because many scientific terms were derived from Classical Greek.

This practice of borrowing from Classical Greekis also inherent in Teutonic and Slavic languages
hey   Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:09 pm GMT
Greek language is connected to turkish and arabic rather than spanish.
Mallorquí.   Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:29 pm GMT
Hey, pour l'amour de Dieu, ne dis pas des bêtises.

Le turc et l'arabe ne sont pas des langues indoeuropéennes, pas du tout apparentées au grec.
Calliope   Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:24 pm GMT
@Mallorquí. don't waste your breath. People like "hey" don't care about facts. Who cares if both Greeks and Turks have stated our languages are not mutually intelligible to the slightest, who cares about language families and structures - they'll sing the same tune over and over till hell freezes.
Mallorquí.   Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:02 pm GMT
Calliope, bonsoir,

Ça me rappelle un marocain, mon copain, qui me disait (en français): "L'arabe est la mère de toutes les langues". Le sens de cette phrase sybilline est toujours resté un mystère pour moi. Je lui ai assuré que, du pont de vue linguistique, cela n'avait acun sens. Rien a faire. Je crois qu'il n'ya rien de plus difficile à détruire qu'un préjugé linguistique.

En désespoir de cause, l'énième fois qu'il a rabâché "L'arabe est la mère de toutes les langues", je lui ai répondu "Et le catalan est la tante de toutes les langues".

Il n'a pas apprécié le trait d'humour.

Enfin...
K. T.   Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:15 pm GMT
LOL..."Tante de toutes les langues"