Vive Le Quebec libre

Guest   Mon Dec 12, 2005 3:58 am GMT
Québec needs to be outside Canada yesterday.

The days of your evil illusion of "Canada" are counted.

Long live Country of Québec..... Long live to the memory of our french patriots who were killed without mercy by the evil british forces.

I'm sick of having your queen in our money. You have no idea how sick I am of that f.....ing.... image in our currency.
Guest   Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:37 am GMT
The French patriots killed the French speaking Quebecois and native Indians!
Guest   Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:49 am GMT
The French patriots killed the French speaking Quebecois and native Indians! ******

That was written by a troll anglo-saxon without doubt.
Guest   Mon Dec 12, 2005 6:31 am GMT
That was written by a troll anglo-saxon without doubt. ******

The truth hurts the anti-anglo-saxon troll
Zach   Mon Dec 12, 2005 9:31 pm GMT
Obviously Chinese is more spoken than English as China Is the largest country in the world, but English is widely accepted as one of the more used languages for media and trade. But if it is simply a difference in languages that is responsible for Quebec wanting to secede from the rest of Canada then that is surely something that can be fixed.
Sander   Wed Dec 14, 2005 3:28 pm GMT
=>as China Is the largest country in the world<=

Russia is the largest country in the world.
Guest   Wed Dec 14, 2005 4:59 pm GMT
Index des liens Internet sur la souveraineté du Québec et la langue française:

http://membres.lycos.fr/nitro128/
Guest   Wed Dec 14, 2005 8:09 pm GMT
Plan d'intervention d'Ottawa pour gonfler le nombre d'électeurs disposés à voter NON

Le camp du NON a-t-il volé
le référendum de 1995?

Le nombre d'attributions de la citoyenneté au Québec est soudainement passé de 23 799 en 1993 à 43 855 en 1995, soit un taux d'augmentation de 87% en deux ans


Pierre O'Neill

LeDevoir 8.11.99


Le camp du NON a-t-il volé le référendum de 1995? Des documents inédits accréditent la thèse des souverainistes.

Les informations recueillies par Le Devoir démontrent qu'Ottawa a conçu et mis en oeuvre un plan d'intervention de grande envergure pour gonfler substantiellement le nombre d'électeurs disposés à voter contre la souveraineté du Québec.

Selon les statistiques compilées par les analystes de Citoyenneté et immigration Canada, le nombre d'attributions de la citoyenneté au Québec est soudainement passé de 23 799 en 1993 à 43 855 en 1995, soit un taux d'augmentation de 87 % en deux ans.

Au cours de la seule année référendaire de 1995, Ottawa a donc attribué des certificats de citoyenneté à 43 855 nouveaux Québécois. Pour le seul mois d'octobre, 11429 certificats ont été émis, soit le quart de la totalité des attributions de l'année. C'était la première fois que le Québec se voyait attribuer plus de certificats de citoyenneté que l'Ontario. Et ça ne s'est jamais reproduit depuis.

Le gouvernement fédéral a ainsi décerné autant de certificats de citoyenneté au Québec, qu'il y a eu de nouveaux électeurs inscrits sur la liste électorale.

Par contre, l'année post-référendaire de 1996 a été marquée par une chute significative de 39 % des attributions de certificats de citoyenneté à des Néo-Québécois.

Dès la fin septembre 1995, les hauts fonctionnaires de Citoyenneté et Immigration Canada ont donné l'ordre d'accélérer le processus d'attribution des certificats et de s'occuper en priorité des requêtes qui étaient en attente au moment du déclenchement de la campagne référendaire.

http://www.vigile.net/9911/vole.html
Guest   Wed Dec 14, 2005 8:10 pm GMT
Autres manoeuvres douteuses

Ce n'est pas la première fois que sont mis en lumière des faits laissant croire que le fédéral a eu recours à des manoeuvres douteuses pour gonfler le vote du Non. En 1998, les péquistes de la région de Montréal ont déposé devant le conseil national de leur parti un dossier visant à démontrer que plus de 100 000 électeurs inscrits sur la liste électorale qui a servi au référendum de 1995 n'avaient pas droit de vote.

Sur la base des informations recueillies auprès du Directeur général des élections et de la Régie de l'assurance-maladie du Québec, les militants péquistes s'étaient appliqués à démontrer que ces 100 000 noms inscrits sur la liste électorale ne figuraient pas sur la liste des bénéficiaires de la RAMQ. Au terme d'un examen exhaustif du dossier, le DGE avait finalement reconnu que 56 000 personnes inscrites sur la liste électorale n'avaient pas droit de vote et que ces noms devaient être radiés.

Faisant valoir que la liste électorale comportait un plus grand nombre d'illégaux que la majorité du Non sur le Oui, les souverainistes n'ont jamais cessé depuis de proclamer qu'Ottawa leur a volé le référendum.

C'est d'ailleurs la détermination des péquistes de l'Estrie qui a contribué à la mise au jour de la fraude électorale dans cette région. Au printemps de 1998, 32 étudiants de l'Université Bishop, à Lennoxville, ont été condamnés pour avoir voté illégalement au référendum de 1995.

http://www.vigile.net/9911/vole.html
noblepoker   Fri Dec 16, 2005 4:35 am GMT
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greg   Fri Dec 16, 2005 6:18 am GMT
Donc si ça se trouve le Québec devrait déjà être indépendant ! Faut porter plainte à l'ONU !
Guest   Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:55 pm GMT
Separatists in Quebec Rely on Votes of Migrants


MONTREAL, Dec. 8 - Viviane Barbot, a Haitian immigrant and parliamentary candidate for the separatist Bloc Québécois, was passing out leaflets at the city's northern Jarry subway station the other morning to the Chinese, Iranian, Moroccan, Vietnamese and Mexican immigrants rushing to work.

Suddenly a young man shouted out in Haitian Creole, "I know the Barbot family from Haiti!" Ms. Barbot smiled broadly, though just momentarily, because he then added: "I'm voting Liberal because they give us lots of gifts. If we elect the Bloc, they will take away our country."

For the separatist movement, turning around the sentiments in that exchange is a key to creating an independent Quebec in the future. For Prime Minister Paul Martin and his governing Liberal party, keeping them just as they are will be vital not only to winning the Jan. 23 election, but to winning a third separatist referendum that is expected in the next few years.

The Bloc has put up a record nine candidates of Haitian, African, Middle Eastern and Chinese origin this year to win toss-up districts, including Ms. Barbot who stands a good chance of defeating Foreign Minister Pierre Pettigrew.

The party is emphasizing issues that appeal to immigrants, like fighting discrimination and increasing social assistance and job training for the unemployed.

To appeal to the growing Muslim vote, the Bloc has accepted an offer by Adil Charkaoui, a Moroccan-born man suspected of involvement in terrorist activities whom the government is trying to deport, to campaign for a local ethnic Armenian Bloc candidate who was born in Syria.

"It is a crucial vote," the Bloc Québécois leader, Gilles Duceppe, said of immigrants in an interview this week after making a campaign appearance with Gérard Labelle, a Bloc candidate born in Mauritius. "It is important for the country that I want to build that these people consider themselves as full Quebecers."

Recent polls suggest that the Bloc Québécois stands to improve on its showing last year when it won nearly 49 percent of the popular vote in Quebec to win 54 of the province's 75 seats in the House of Commons.

The Bloc was the biggest opposition force in the House of Commons after the Conservative Party over the last year and a half, and it played a crucial role in bringing down the government and forcing the early election.

The government fell after a federal inquiry released a report documenting a Liberal party scandal in Quebec including money laundering and illegal party financing during an advertising effort to increase federalist sentiment after the close 1995 referendum.

Before reports of the scandal began to emerge three years ago, the separatists were in a deep decline. But now it is the federalist side that is demoralized, with Liberal candidates mentioning their party by name only in barely visible lettering on their posters.

A good showing among immigrants and their children, who represent about 15 percent of the Quebec population, could give the separatists a majority of the popular vote next month for the first time in history and a gain of three to six seats. That would make the Bloc even stronger in a deeply divided Parliament, and guarantee a wobbly Conservative or Liberal government for the next several years.

"If they get that 50 percent, it gives them all the ammunition, credibility and legitimacy to accelerate going into the next referendum," said Christian Bourque, vice president for research of Léger Marketing, a polling firm. "In a referendum, the immigrant vote is a factor that could tip it over to yes."

A decade ago when the separatist movement lost a hard-fought referendum campaign by a hair, it won only 5 percent of the immigrant vote after writing it off. Most immigrants, especially those from war-torn countries, came to Canada for stability and have appreciated the Liberal party for its liberal immigration policies.

Those leanings are beginning to shift, especially among youths who since the late 1970's have been educated primarily in French because of provincial language laws.

Once known as a nearly all white French-Canadian party, the Bloc last year elected Maka Kotto, a Cameroon-born actor, to the House of Commons. Polls now show the Bloc has as much as 20 percent of the immigrant vote in Quebec.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/11/international/americas/11quebec.html
Annelies   Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:14 pm GMT
Hey LES SÉPARISTES!! Do you live in Quebec?? Si oui, shouldn't you be shoveling your driveway or something???? 30 cm de "marde blanche"!!!
Annelies   Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:21 pm GMT
correction: SÉ-PA-RA-TIS-TES
Guest   Sat Dec 17, 2005 1:18 am GMT
I wonder: Has this become the longest Antimoon thread yet?