Is "Brit" an insulting term?

Damian in Edinburgh   Sun Jan 29, 2006 8:22 am GMT
***What have the British ever done to the Irish?***

As recompense for Cromwell, maybe it should read: "for the Irish": Given them jobs on building construction sites and on road and motorway maintenance and homes and refuge and social welfare (in the past) in Glasgow and Liverpool and Irish pubs in Cowcaddens and Springburn and Camden Town and Kilburn......et al. Apart from that, nothing much.
SAOIRSE   Sun Jan 29, 2006 3:47 pm GMT
A few of the wonderful England has done for us
"Gerald McKinney was shot dead in Glenfada Park. He had been part of the group of people who were caught in Glenfada Park and who were trying to get to safety towards Westland Street. He decided to make a run for it at the same time as Gerald Donaghy who was just ahead of him. Donaghy was shot and McKinney must have seen the soldier. Two eyewitnesses stated that McKinney then raised his arms in surrender and shouted, "Don't shoot!, Don't shoot!". The trajectory of the bullet through his chest from left to right is consistent with this evidence. Had McKinney's arms not been raised the bullet would have passed through one or both arms."
Kevin McElhinney was shot from behind, probably by Soldier K, as he was attempting to crawl to safety in the Rossville Flats. The bullet entered his left buttock and travelled up through his body exiting near his shoulder. Two eyewitnesses, including a Catholic priest, testified that McElhinney was unarmed. He was shot close to the front entrance of Rossville Flats, near to the rubble barricade, and was dragged inside by some people who were already sheltering there. He died almost immediately.
SAOIRSE   Sun Jan 29, 2006 3:55 pm GMT
These two people and 11 more were unarmed civilians who were shot dead by British soldiers in Derry in 1972. Should we be grateful for this as well. We don't have to look back beyond living memory to see the work the Brits have done in Ireland. Kevin McElhinney was just 17. You must be so proud to be British and especially proud of ypour paratroopers. The IRA made the paras pay for it later though.
BNP   Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:45 pm GMT
"The IRA made the paras pay for it later though."
How? Where? when? As if they could.
SAOIRSE   Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:29 pm GMT
Ever heard of warrenpoint? I'm not trying to glorify death but the IRA could hit the British Army hard. Its definately not a nice thing but they use to happen.

"The ambush had been carefully planned. The first bomb, weighing half-a-ton, was planted under some hay on a flat-bed lorry beside a dual carriageway 44 miles (71km) from Belfast on the Irish border.

It exploded killing six soldiers of the Second Battalion Parachute Regiment as they travelled past in a four-ton lorry at the back of a three-vehicle army convoy.

The surviving troops in the other two vehicles were immediately deployed to cordon off the area and call for reinforcements.

Members of the Queen's Own Highlanders, who flew to the scene by helicopter, arrived from Bessbrook base in County Armagh.

Twenty minutes after the first explosion, as the helicopter took off carrying some of the injured, the second device was detonated.

Twelve more soldiers - two Highlanders and ten Paras - who had been taking cover in a nearby gate house were killed as the second device exploded close to them."
Quote taken from BBC.
Adam   Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:35 pm GMT
"Eirininn abu Sinn Fein abu tiocfiadh ar la... you wana know why we hate the english so much just look at people like adams your a disgusting human being... you might as well be a nazi the way your people commit mass genocide"

Says the IRA supporter.

Also, come back when your spelling and grammar are in a decent shape, you disgusting animal.
Adam   Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:38 pm GMT
"As recompense for Cromwell, maybe it should read: "for the Irish": Given them jobs on building construction sites and on road and motorway maintenance and homes and refuge and social welfare (in the past) in Glasgow and Liverpool and Irish pubs in Cowcaddens and Springburn and Camden Town and Kilburn......et al. Apart from that, nothing much. "

What have the English done for the Scots, though?

Subsidise you, that's what.......



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Scottish subsidy from England hits up to £11.3bn a year
By Fraser Nelson, Political Editor
18 December 2005


SCOTLAND’s annual subsidy from England has DOUBLEDsince Labour came to power and state spending lifted to Scandinavian levels after its sluggish economy was deluged by the UK public spending boom.

Official figures from the devolved Scottish Executive have shown £45.3bn (E67bn, $80bn) was spent in Scotland in 2003-04 but only £34bn recovered in taxation. The £11.3bn difference works out at £2,200 per head of population in Scotland. On current trends, Scotland’s state spending as a share of its national economy will next year rise to 52.2%, overtaking the average for Scandinavia and becoming the fourth-highest in the OECD.

In its annual survey of Scotland’s public finances, the devolved Scottish Executive showed the gap between spending and taxation at its largest since records began. The figures exclude North Sea oil tax, but for the year in question, only £4.3bn was collected from North Sea revenue. If every penny had gone to Scotland, it would still have left a £7bn gap that equates to a £281 surcharge on every English taxpayer.

In 1997-98, the first full year of Labour government, the Scottish subsidy was £5.4bn. Since that time, its economic growth has averaged just 1.7% a year – below the 2% of the eurozone, 2.4% for France and 2.9% for the UK. The weak growth has subdued tax revenues, but government spending increases applied equally to both sides of the Border – leaving the Scottish government increasingly dependent on prosperous parts of England.

As Scotland had European levels of state spending in 1997, due to a funding formula which acknowledges its poor health and sparse population, it has now been pushed to Scandinavian levels.

After overtaking Finland this year, Scotland stands behind only Sweden, France and Denmark for government spending as a share of economic output. But its tax as a share of gross domestic product (GDP), 38% in 2003, is seventh-lowest in the OECD.

This is increasingly controversial among deprived parts of England, where there are calls for a new funding system on a needs-based formula. This is how Australia divides money between its eight states and territories.

At present, the system is governed by the Barnett Formula which distributes spending to Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland on a population-based formula without any reference to need. The SNP wants Scotland’s budget to be set at the tax it generates, following the system Spain uses for the devolved Basque Country. Any shortfall, the SNP says, can be filled by government borrowing.




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Adam   Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:40 pm GMT
"Ever heard of warrenpoint? I'm not trying to glorify death but the IRA could hit the British Army hard. Its definately not a nice thing but they use to happen. "

We could nuke the IRA. What happened if Britain got angry and nuked little Ireland? The IRA fighting the British is like a mouse firing a peanut at a charging rhinoceros.
Guest   Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:52 pm GMT
Ireland is a bit close to England for a nuke isn't it. Cause a bit of damage to us over here. All the international laws being broken and all that. You don't think that the everybody in Ireland supports them. And also it was in 1979, NOT YESTERDAY.
Adam   Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:01 pm GMT
Doesn't stop the Irish for having a grudge against the British for the Potato Famine - a thing that happened in the 1840s.

We'd best not nuke Ireland - just invade it again. Should be a lot easier than Iraq.
Adam   Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:04 pm GMT
""As recompense for Cromwell, maybe it should read: "for the Irish": Given them jobs on building construction sites and on road and motorway maintenance and homes and refuge and social welfare (in the past) in Glasgow and Liverpool and Irish pubs in Cowcaddens and Springburn and Camden Town and Kilburn......et al. Apart from that, nothing much. " "

Half of Liverpool are Irish - they took most of the jobs there.

They built our railways - but we paid them for it.

They should be grateful. No - they bomb us instead.
Guest   Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:14 pm GMT
Adam, I assume you know your history and simply choose to ignore it in your usual pig headed way so as to make England shine in the eyes of the world. I won't waste any more tme on you. Also Adam probaly=BNP.(As in that other English fool on those other threads)
Guest   Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:19 pm GMT
"you disgusting animal."
Starting to sound like an upperclass twit. Don't get mad Adam.

"Scottish subsidy from England hits up to £11.3bn a year"
If your ancestors did'nt invade them then they would'nt be such a burden so tough shit "englander swine".
How much did England get from the oil fields off Scotland?
Guest   Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:30 pm GMT
"We'd best not nuke Ireland - just invade it again."
What a complete idiot. You must be 12 or at least have a mental age of 12. MORON.
Guest   Thu Feb 02, 2006 9:45 pm GMT
"We could nuke the IRA."
What??? Are they standing shoulder to shoulder in a field? The fact that were ever only a few hundred volunteers on active service at any one time would mean a nuke would be a bit extreme. A better solution would to have been to force unionists in the seventies to share power and prevent human rights abuses. This would have meant little support for the IRA and saved 3,500 lives including hundreds from your precious British Army. Instead you lot did the complete opposite, so too bad if your country suffered. it was the British that created the need for the IRA. I'm not Irish or have any Irish relatives but I do understand my history and this is my humble oppinion.